Large Scale Central

A Gn3 indoor layout in Model Railroader (Feb 2015)

Theme is D&RGW, space is 20x55feet. Location: Guelph, Ont Canada Operating scheme: (point) to loop to loop.

Have a look http://mrr.trains.com/how-to/track-plan-database/2014/12/gn3-denver-rio-grande-western

What the hell is Gn3 ??? (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Your guess is as good as mine. With G “scale” being whatever a manufacturer decides it is, I guess it amounts to “Whatever 3-foot Narrow Guage” My head hurts just thinking about it!(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif).

Vic Smith said:

What the hell is Gn3 ??? (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

A misnomer for 20.3:1.

Todd Brody said:

Vic Smith said:

What the hell is Gn3 ??? (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

A misnomer for 20.3:1.

Thats what I also thought, but considering how many years Fn3 has been around you would think that Kalmbach of all people would get that one right LOL

Gn3 = Gummi_n3

Regardless of the name or some obvious other errors, it was still an nicely done layout.

No subscription, no links work… just a little thumbnail.

Anytime I hear someone speak of “G” scale, or gauge; I imediately think the person has no clue about scale or gauge, or the difference between the two.

…but then some think this is the way to describe their part of a slowly dying hobby.

I had cause to go into a “Great Hobby” store yesterday, that has three branches here in Ontario.

There was not one iota of Model Railroading in the shop. This goes to show that there is no market for model railroading in their research.

Sad…

I thought that Model Railroader Magazine, was not adressing Garden Railroading, and leaving that to their other publication, Garden Railways. Is this a sign that the writting is on the wall for Garden Railways…?

There was an announcement today from B’mann trains, of the availability of their 2015 catologue. Only new feature announced for Large Scale, is some sort of animated Stock car, in the big hauler line…

I’ve given up correcting the “experts” on the intricacies of LS trains, life’s too short. Besides, the standard answer usually is “I really don’t care”. Good, and I don’t worry.

Yes, Hans; that’s what I get, and from now on; I’ll just not comment…!!

Fred I actually consider “G scale” to refer specifically for 1:22.5 scale. Very specifically meter gauge LGB. Other scales have or attempted to have letter designations assigned to their scale.

F=1:20.3

G=1:22.5

H=1/24

A=1/29

Of course this left Guage 1, 1/32, intact and AFAIK, 1:13 aka 7/8" got ignored entirely

FYI Bachmann catalog in the LS Thomas line shows a funky little railcar, the drive should be good for bashing, if it doesn’t cost an arm and a leg like that lump of plastic Toby.

Fred Mills, BSc, BS, SD (Hons) said:…I thought that Model Railroader Magazine, was not adressing Garden Railroading, and leaving that to their other publication, Garden Railways. Is this a sign that the writting is on the wall for Garden Railways…?

It’s rare for Model Railroader to run an article on outdoor railroading, but they include large scale indoor lines on a more routine basis. Barry Boggs’ line has been featured a few times, Tom Miller, even Malcolm Furlow did a large scale railroad a while back for MR. There have been others, but I tend not to keep track of them. (I don’t subscribe to MR, and only see them when I think to glance through at the hobby shop.) Garden Railways likewise tends to steer clear of articles on indoor large scale lines, though every once in a blue moon they do work their way in.

As for the “Gn3” designation, the railroad is built to 1:22.5, so it’s “G” scale. MR uses the Gn3 label for Barry Bogg’s 1:22.5 line as well.

Later,

K

I always thought F scale was like Tom Miller’s 1:20.3 layout (he calls it F scale too), which, by the way, did he sell that property yet? He want something like $7million, I’m not sure…

Thanks HJ !

But not a subscriber so will patiently wait till I can source it from our public library sys., …4-6 months :slight_smile:

doug c

p.s. will be interesting to note whether GR mag picks up the ‘story’ for publication but chop 1-2 pgs from it. Just like they did a couple yrs back for the story about the florida-based(?) travelling modular layout. Yeah I could not believe it when MR published the story and then GR (a couple pgs less !) Nice to show G-gauge hobby to the sm scale basement-dwellers who primarily view MR mag, but ya would think the GR mag would have had same amount of pgs or more !? Kalmbach corp. is a tad backwards. imho

Doug,

That’s where my copy comes from, too. Public library, a lot of good stuff and certainly a better deal than a subscription. (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)Save that money for TRAINS and CLASSIC TRAINS mag. (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

PS apropos library; turns out that our local branch has the highest lending/take out/download rate in the whole Okanagan system. There are several ways to interprete that, but I sticj with “That’s because of the many keen readers” (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

If my calc. is correct ( and it may not be) Then if " G " 1:22.5 = standard gage on 45mm track, then Gn3 would have to be on 28.6 mm gage. Close to “O” at 29+mm.

No Dave

If G is 1:22.5 (for the North Americans) then the standard gauge will be 63.7mm (1435:22.5); OTOH if it were to be Gn3 i.e. represent 3ft gauge then it would need to be 40.6mm (914:22.5) However as it is it is just “G — wie Gummi”; a moniker I coined in the early 2000s when I found out just how weird the scale/gauge relations were/are in LS.

But as I mentioned a few posts earlier “I don’t worry about it”, I model 1:22.5 as Swiss Meter gauge for which 45mm track gauge is very close.

Hans-Joerg Mueller said:

No Dave

If G is 1:22.5 (for the North Americans) then the standard gauge will be 63.7mm (1435:22.5); OTOH if it were to be Gn3 i.e. represent 3ft gauge then it would need to be 40.6mm (914:22.5) However as it is it is just “G — wie Gummi”; a moniker I coined in the early 2000s when I found out just how weird the scale/gauge relations were/are in LS.

But as I mentioned a few posts earlier “I don’t worry about it”, I model 1:22.5 as Swiss Meter gauge for which 45mm track gauge is very close.

Yes thats why I refer to G as meter gauge for LGB narrow gauge models, 1/22.5 being the scale. I guess what Kalmbach meant by Gn3 was “3’ gauge at 1/22.5 scale” its just that i have never seen it referred to as Gn3 thats why I was asking with many question marks ???

I consider my own layout 1/22.5, at shows I will tell people its “LGB size”, its just an easy referrence as people can relate to it more.