Sounds like Friar Tuck has been in the kegs again…:lol: If he falls over, somebody prop him up!
Warren 
Fred Mills said:
I really think LGB, and it's three owners.....the boys and their dad.....should give up visiting Colorado and making a mess of things. Instead; they should visit Scotland; buy a distillery; sink a bit of money into some fine Single Malt; wait 12 years and make a killing. In the mean time......they should camp out in the Black Forest with several cases of Highland Park, and stop screwing up the Large Scale industry........leave the Chineese to do it on their own......with the help of a bunch of American, Lionel types.......I’m just sitting back with my own Single Malt Collection; watching the fun…!!!
I think young "Zimmer", or whatever the young fellow's name is; would approve.......I invite him to join me.</blockquote>Fred,
That is a splendid idea!
And don’t feed the Troll!
This is right in the script of what everyone has been expecting.
This started when Wolfgang retired, first you fire Gibson and Hess, and start the process.
Shift production to China (no breaking news there), close down production lines in Germany, there needs to be a way to keep profitable in the new world economy, and paying EU wages and benefits and a month off each year isn’t gonna cut it.
Dave ,
Explain your last comment above , especially with relation to European wages and a month’s holiday . I must have missed something , it makes no sense .
Actually, Mike…young David is well miffed; ever since he heard the the German LGB workers recieved a free Cuban Cigar, and at least a pint and a half of a good ale for lunch each day…the month off, was just another thorn in his foot.
Fred Mills said:Fred,
Actually, Mike.......young David is well miffed; ever since he heard the the German LGB workers recieved a free Cuban Cigar, and at least a pint and a half of a good ale for lunch each day..........the month off, was just another thorn in his foot.
Of course there is the matter of how one defines “European”, my experience is that this hardly ever includes the British isles! Take that into consideration and what Dave points out is spot on.
I’m not sure that the beer ration still applies or at least I don’t think it does in the factories which I experienced on the shop floor. Scrapping that had something to do with improving productivity and quality. 
But yes in years gone by there was where we have a soft drink machine in Canada, a beer machine in Bavaria.
Of course there will be those who say that the Nürnbergers are “Franken”; jolly good, still belongs to Bavaria (Freistaat Bayern) last time I looked at a map!
quote said:Over here most people know where Europe begins and where it ends. Never heard of anybody doubting about the Brit. Isles beeing part of Europe. They must have different maps in Canada. Don´t they take a day off at the Queens Birthday anymore?
Of course there is the matter of how one defines "European", my experience is that this hardly ever includes the British isles! Take that into consideration and what Dave points out is spot on.
I suppose, most Northamericans know where Bavaria is. Oktoberfest County?
But still I have never seen anybody drinking alcohol during working hours at the
Lehmann factory in Nuernberg. Again a Carry-On-Swiss Myth.
Have Fun
Juergen Zirner
Ah, but there are ways around that.
At Christmas, the trick is to get a box of oranges, a syringe, and some good rotgut Russkie Vodka.
By the end of the day, nobody is walking upright, and the bosses cannot figure it out.
Ummmmmmmm…what exactly was the topic of this thread anyway?
steve stockham said:
Ummmmmmmm…what exactly was the topic of this thread anyway?
Steve, Don’t worry , but remember…
BOOZE!
Curmudgeon said:Where did you hear about "that problem"?? ;) :)
BOOZE!
Zirner said:
But still I have never seen anybody drinking alcohol during working hours at the Lehmann factory in Nuernberg. Again a Carry-On-Swiss Myth.Have Fun
Juergen Zirner
I had a few bheers with them at the Lehmann factory in Nuremberg in 1982.
Maybe, they don’t drink alcohol at break or lunch today, but they did then.
The Lone Railroader said:Zirner said:
But still I have never seen anybody drinking alcohol during working hours at the Lehmann factory in Nuernberg. Again a Carry-On-Swiss Myth.Have Fun
Juergen Zirner
I have a few bheers with them at the Lehmann factory in Nuremberg in 1982.Maybe, they don’t drink alcohol at break or lunch today, but they did then.
Marvin,
I’m sure they didn’t drink today and I wonder if they will, come Monday?
Or maybe they really quit that custom for good. Labour laws do change.
BTW at one of the German companies where I attended a one week seminar, they would serve Steak Tartare sandwiches at morning coffee break. Not your standard Canadian fare of coffee and a muffin or a danish, that’s for sure.
steve stockham said:Hi,
Ummmmmmmm...............what exactly was the topic of this thread anyway?
it all started with Mueller annoucing the American price of a product which is not even on the market yet.
Since nobody was interested too much, Mueller went on his famous Anti-LGB-Crusade again.
By the time, he showed his famous collection of second hand LGB material and declared. he ist kitbashing these things into models, I happended to come around, and asked if he could show the rest of the world some of his famous kitbashings or 45mm gauge models.
After all, he is talking about them, for years in fori all over the world. I am sure, the worldwide modelling fraternity could benefit from an experienced modeller like Mueller. After seeing his skills with drills I am not so sure anymore.
Even in one of the German Forums they almost are begging on their knees to see pictures of Mr. Mueller outstanding Meter Gauge or IIm models. Some people there actually doubt, that he has ever finished a single of his LGB bashings. The older ones still recall, he actually took a LGB wagon apart years ago. But nobody remembers the rest.
Well but there is no time for these things anymore. Mr. Mueller opended the Troll-Hunting -Season. If they ask stupid questions, shoot them. Hope no Troll ties a knot in the barrel of his pumpgun.
Hope he never comes to Norway. The local Trolls over there have the tar and feathers ready.
Meanwhile we can discuss the drinking and breakfast habits around the world. Hints for getting drunk at work on Christmas are not nessessary. In Germany only few people work on christmas. Mainly in hospitals, at the fire brigade, in public transport. Very good places to stay sober.
Have Fun.
Juergen Zirner
Hi, we treat our European Trolls with respect. Very often they help us out with making nice prototypes for our models.
Picture from W.S., used with permission) This beautiful wagon platform was made by my friend W. with the assistance of his Harz-Trolls. Have Fun Juergen Zirner
I’m undecided as to who is the troll. This is all just so much BS. Can’t we just get back to trains?
ah, Jon, it’s TROLL BS, which is highly efficient fertilizer!