Shots rang out as President John F. Kennedy was assassinated NOVEMBER 22, 1963, in Dallas, Texas. The youngest President ever elected, he was also the youngest to die, barely serving 1,000 days. The 46-year-old Kennedy was on his way to the Dallas Trade Mart to deliver a speech in which he prepared to say: “We in this country, in this generation, are - by destiny rather than choice - the watchmen on the walls of world freedom. We ask, therefore, that we may be worthy of our power and responsibility, that we may exercise our strength with wisdom and restraint, and that we may achieve in our time and for all time the ancient vision of peace on earth, goodwill toward men.”
Hey Ken Thanks for the reminder and quote…
did you see the Jesse Ventura show on the Kennedy assassination a week or so ago. I overheard someone discussing, sounded pretty interesting. I don’t have the TV connection so I won’t have a chance to view.
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I had just seen something about Marilyn Monroe singing Happy Birthday to Jack, and 3 months later she was found dead of a drug overdose. Hmmmm? Don’t remember the year.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/
JFK Assassination Special
Date: 11-22-10
Host: George Noory
Guests: Donald A. Adams, Craig Hulet, Tim Miller, G. Paul Chambers
Four different guests will address different aspects of the JFK assassination.
Hour 1: Former FBI Investigator Don Adams claims he knows the true killer of JFK, and it was not Lee Harvey Oswald.
Hour 2: Analyst Craig B. Hulet will discuss the research of Federal Judge Jim Garrison which linked an element of the Secret Service to the assassination.
Hour 3: Publisher and author Tim Miller will share information gathered this past year that proves a conspiracy.
Hour 4: Research scientist Paul Chambers will discuss the science behind the physical evidence associated with the assassination.
Website(s):
* adamsjfk.com
* craigbhulet.com
* flatsigned.com
Video(s):
* From An Office Building With A High Powered Rifle
Book(s):
* The Hydra of Carnage
* Head Shot: The Science Behind the JFK AssassinationThis incident is definately “I remmber where I was when I heard the news announcement of the shooting”. As a teenager in 1963 the announcement still is vivid in my memories. Over last weekend I viewed two documentaries, one recently made and the other composed of newsreel footage and interviews at the time. Real time interviews speak of multiple gunshots, up to five distinct sounds heard, plus conflicting cooments from both the public and the police at the scene. One police officer spoke that a male had been arrested and a female accomplice was being sought. Other witnesses spoke of bullets whizzing past their heads from the border fence on the grassy knoll behind them. Police officers even responded to gunshots purportedly heard from the grassy embankment.
Both John and Bobby made enemies in the election campaign in Chicago in 1959/60. It was Chicago based ‘enforcers’ who encouraged voters out on a cold Chicago day to vote for Jack Kennedy, even though many of the predominantly Negro voters had never voted before. The men were encouraged by reports that Bobby as attorney-general would ‘repay’ getting his brother into office. The margin of victory over Nixon was a relatively slim one, requiring the Chicago based support to get over the line. How did Bobby respond in the months after the election, well he clamped down on crime figures, no doubt angering many.
Telephone tap sources found that Jack had been ‘entertaining’ a Hollywood starlet (not Marilyn) and that she was also entertaining a head figure in the mafia at the same time (75 individual telephone calls to the one phone number). Investigations by Lyndon Johnson, after his inaugration, confirmed that the American government was implicit in many government sanctioned assasinations or planned assasinations in Vietnam, Africa, Cuba and South America under the leadership of the Kennedy administration. Johnson actually believed, at the time of the assasination, that a governement sponsored plot was in action. At this time over 70% of the American population believed in a conspiracy rather than a single gunman. Considering that Oswald had supposedly just murdered the President and police officer Tippet, he did seem very convincing in the few interviews held in the Dallas governemnt office as to his innocence and his ignorance of the crimes against him.
Very strange that he should leave the murder weapon at the scence, still with a round in the breech, shoot a police officer several blocks away with a handgun and be arrested in the second back row of a picture theatre, still with a shotgun in his possession. I do find it unconvincing that considering the enhightened police presence in the area that he would travel several blocks carrying a concealed weapon plus a shotgun. Also, suspicious that a witness near the book depository claims that he actually saw a man with a rifle extended out the depository window several times before the fateful shots. He gave a very detailed description of the man, even though he was some distance from him. Court records have shown in general that supposed ‘eyewitnesses’ generally get details wrong and yet the Oswald witness was very explicit in his description. Some years ago I read of Oswald’s army training and his distinct lack of accuracy with firearms and yet he was able to get off three rounds in six seconds with deadly accuracy, with a neck shot and a headshot at several hundred metres distance.
Johnson initiated the Warren Commission to ‘find the truth’ and yet wanted it all cleared up before the coming presidential election the following year. When releaesed the report was accepted with a grain of salt and yet to this day, no one has come forward and been able to discredit those findings, leaving Oswald as the sole perpetrator of the plot.
History has indeed been very kind to the Kennedy administration, even though numerous leaks have surfaced of his personal life and his achievements (or lack there of) in office. I did shed a tear of remembrance during both documentaries as, regardless of the humanity of the man, he was a national leader and did deserve respect for his high office. Comparison of his administration to ‘Camelot’ could lead to only one outcome, his tragic death as a result of his administration in office, much as the mythical King Arthur died as a result of his liason with his half sister and their offspring Mordred.
I’ve toldja all before I was the shooter on the grassy knoll…
So, who played the Lancelot part. That’s what I want to know.
Too young, I was just a kid, how young I wont say but very young, I do remember exactly where I was when Apollo 11 landed (glued to the tube of course), Nixon resigned (at home) Reagan was shot (at school) and the Columbia exploded (college)
Victor Smith said:Young, but not too young. I was in elementary school, 6th grade I think. They called an assembly to announce it. I remember watching the funeral on TV.
Too young, I was just a kid, how young I wont say but very young, I do remember exactly where I was when Apollo 11 landed (glued to the tube of course), Nixon resigned (at home) Reagan was shot (at school) and the Columbia exploded (college)
Apollo 11 I remember as well, at home on TV. The Nixon and Regan things I remember, but not where I was. As for shuttles, Columbia was not that long ago, are you thinking of Challenger? I was at work watching the launch live on TV. For Columbia we were just getting out of bed and saw it on the news. That one hit me hard as we went to the second test launch in 1982 and watched from the beach.
Victor Smith said:I was in math class, the news was spread by a runner from the principal's office. I watched the Apollo landing while in college (summer school). I was in Okinawa when Nixon resigned, so it occurred on another planet. I was holding Sick Call at Paris Island when Regan was shot, and it brought back all the memories of the Kennedy brothers, Dr. King, and everyone else from those troubled times, I felt as though I had been kicked in the gut. When Challenger went up, I was in the pilot house of USS Mcclusky, boring holes through the water. One of the young lieutenants, who fancied himself a wag, noted that NASA stood for "Need Another Seven Astronauts." No one laughed.
Too young, I was just a kid, how young I wont say but very young, I do remember exactly where I was when Apollo 11 landed (glued to the tube of course), Nixon resigned (at home) Reagan was shot (at school) and the Columbia exploded (college)
I was in homeroom in junior high, 7th grade, reading PT 109, waiting for the end of school bell to ring. Saw a couple of girls walking down the hall, crying, then the announcement came over the PA…
I was on my bread route (between high school and the rest of my life) waiting to be called to active duty. When I went into one of my stores I was told what had happened. I found a lot of people crying and many more looking dazed but if I remember correctly, no one was unaffected. As I progressed along the route it was the same story. And as the day wore on and the terrible reality of what had happened finally sank in, a lot of the sorrow and bewilderment felt by most people (me included) began to be replaced by anger and irrational talk of retribution against whichever person, group, or nation was responsible. I hadn’t had feelings like that until 9/11. Again it was sorrow, bewilderment, anger and finally an overpowering need for revenge. If we had decided to nuke half of the rest of the world I would have supported the initiative.
Walt
Those not alive in the early 1960’s maybe do not understand the charismatic figure that was JFK. He was revered in the western world as a saviour who kept the escalating onslaught that was communist socialism at bay. As one English journalist phrased it at the time of his death, “We had three years of peace and another five years to go before we had to worry about our future.” It was considered a shoein that he would be elected for a second term in office. Had he survived the assasination attempt, the world may have been a different place. It was the Johnson administration that took the Vietnam conflict from a ‘training’ exercise (under the Kennedy administration) to a full on war against North Vietnam (and indirectly China, Laos and Cambodia). Some saw the escalating Vietnam conflict as a fuse to vent the continuing rift between communism and the west and indirectly averting a worldwide conflict.
Kennedy, in office did make many enemies, both inside and outside the American mainland. Some may rememer the Cuban ‘Bay of Pigs’ fiasco in which misdirected ex-Cuban nationals attempted an invasion of Cuba in 1961 (supposedly under CIA encouragement). There was a reported assasination hit squad out to silence Castro. There was the 1962(?) Cuban missile crisis in which nuclear missile launch platforms had been constructed less than ninety miles from Florida coastline. It was Kennedy who stood up to Nikita Kruschev and instigated a naval blockade preventing ships carrying missiles entering Cuba. This was the closest the world came to a third world war and undoubtedly it would have been nuclear. The western world saw Kennedy as a knight in shining armour.
On the homefront it was a different matter, with racial integration and clamping down on organised crime (at Bobby’s insistence), high on Kennedy’s list. Kennedy was the first president to visit Dallas since 1948. Only a month before his visit, the American United Nations ambassador visited Dallas and was jeckled and ‘assaulted’ by right wing extremists. Dallas was seen as a no-go zone. It is thus suprising that the FBI and secret service were not more thorough in their preliminary investigations in Dallas prior the visit. Oswald was a known subversive and was actually interviewed by the FBI in Dallas only two weeks prior the Kennedy visit. A simple check of Oswald’s employment history would have shown that Oswald’s place of work was on the presidential route. This should have raised a red flag. The FBI did not inform the Dallas police that Oswald was in Dallas at the time. Oswald was a known communist sympathiser, had emigrated to Russia after denouncing his U.S. citizenship and had visited the Cuban embassy in Mexico city on several occasions. He returned to the United States in 1962, totally disillusioned with the Russian form of communism. Considering the hightened communist fear at the time, Oswald should have been seen as a ‘person of interest’ and yet was allowed to go to his place of employment directly on the presidential route, without FBI surveillance. It is no wonder that conspiracy theories surfaced. Considering that he had no problems leaving Russia in 1962, along with his native-born Russian bride, could Oswald have been a Russian mole, awaiting an assignment?
I feel that the FBI were more directly concerned with the right wing element in the Dallas area. Kennedy had made many enemies in the south. He was criticised for his support of racial integration and denounced for his efforts to reign in the escalating Vietnam conflict. Kennedy saw himself as a leader whose purpose was to bring about world peace. His comments at the Fort Worth presidential breakfast speech on the morning of Novemember 22nd, echo this feeling. He was to make a similar speech in Dallas at the Trade Mart building at 1pm. Film footage of the Fort Worth speech show him as a man who wanted to change the world and he saw the United States as the country that would carry it out. He made several lighthearted responses when given a ‘ten-gallon’ hat and a pair of snakeskin boots by the Chamber of Commerce. Ironically, the speaker giving him the gifts, commented that the hat would protect his head from the hot Texas sun and the boots would protect him from the rattlers on Lyndon Johnson’s ranch. Kennedy declined to try on the hat and commented, “Come up to the White House on Monday and I will put it on there.” Less than three hours later he was dead.
Also ironic that the secret service were concerned with his ‘exposure’ to the public, enroute and considered installing the plastic 'bubble top on the presidential limousine. Also, unknown to myself, the vice-president, Lyndon Johnson was in the trailing car with ladybird Johnson, directly behind the secret service car trailing the presidential limousine. In hindsight, considering the political atmoshere in Dallas, due right wing extremists, this could have exposed the Chief and his deputy to danger. I am sure that Johnson, in the trailing car, would have not been immediately aware of the danger he was in. He would have possibly seen the secret service agent climb aboard the presidential limousine and the cavalcade increase in speed. This would then have put Johnson in range of the sniper. At the time of the shooting, both the police escort and the secret service seemed oblivious to Kennedy’s situation, taking several seconds to react. Jackie was seen to assist the secret service agent climb aboard the limousine. The rest is as we say, history.
Not long after taking office, Johnson escalated the Vietnam conflict, increasing the American contingent to troop levels unimaginable under the Kennedy administration. Do we remember the Vietnam catch cry, “All the way with LBJ.” If Kennedy had of survived the assasination attempt, how different the world may have been. If Nixon had of become president in 1960, how would he have handled the Cuban crisis. I do not regard Nixon as a diplomat (as was Kennedy), but rather a bully in the schoolyard and the world may have been a much different place. History will see JFK as a hero and Nixon as the villian.
Oswald was no doubt the ‘shooter’. Brief interviews in the Dallas police station show him as an arrogant person, not a ‘patsie’ as he claimed. An innocent person would have profusely claimed his innocence and yet Oswald repeatedly denied knowledge of the charges against him and several times requested legal assistance. He seemed to be making a showring circus performance rather than a ‘victim’ proclaiming his innocence. Whether he alone engineered the shooting will not be known.
Tim Brien said:he visited western Germany, spoke one sentence in heavy accented german winning over the whole country. ("Ich bin ein Berliner!") 47 years ago i was eleven. it was the second time that i saw my parents glued to the radio with sorrowfull faces. the first was during the Cuba crisis. .
...The western world saw Kennedy as a knight in shining armour...
47 years ago. Damn I was a mere twenty years old! Just leaving my morning classes at Glendale Community College. I went to the parking lot to get into my old 1956, oval window VW. I turned on the radio and couldn’t believe the news
Gary Armitstead said:Ya got me beat, was a mere 5 month old.
47 years ago. Damn I was a mere twenty years old!
Forrest Scott Wood said:You both got me beat...I wasn't hatched yet! :)Gary Armitstead said:Ya got me beat, was a mere 5 month old.
47 years ago. Damn I was a mere twenty years old!