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1850-1860's prototype trucks

I am searching for any drawings for the wood beam trucks used around 1850-1860’s. Measurements would be great , however a picture would be sufficient. I am modeling the Civil War period and cannot seem to find anything other than HO or N gauge… Thanks

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You did say that photos would be “sufficient.” (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

Back then there were many different kinds and types. A common one was a Carter Bros. Notice how short it is in length.

Steve those links are great. I also want to make some Civil War cars and was not sure about the trucks. Now I have no excuse.

Just remember Travis you need to pick out all the details in paint like they did back in the day…Note Johns Carter Bros pic with the stars on the bearing caps

JB’s pic shows a wheel base of 20 inches. There were also wheelbases of every two inch dimension from there to 66’’. Take your pick.

If you haven’t already these would be places to ask,

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Steve Featherkile said:

JB’s pic shows a wheel base of 20 inches. There were also wheelbases of every two inch dimension from there to 66’’. Take your pick.

And 10" wheels(http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

https://books.google.com/books/reader?id=Jv7VAAAAMAAJ&printsec=frontcover&output=reader&pg=GBS.PA311

This is the Car Builders Cyclopedia of American Practice from 1888. There are a few pictures previous to this point of two wheel trucks also but from this page on it shows the wood trucks with individual pedestals. It has parts names and a scale that you can take measurements from. You could probably probe around google and find an older one but I think this is covering what your looking for.

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc1.$b148453;view=1up;seq=263

1879 version which seems to be the oldest. These will help you will all aspects of car building. great resource.

Here’s a photo of trucks from Hartford Products:

Available from Ozark Miniatures Truck page

I have three…yep count em…of these Hartford trucks, nice but small for 7/8th scale.