Just curious- How does the 1/32 MTH offset steel caboose look, scale wise, next to Aristo’s/USAT 1/29 rolling stock? Got any pictures? Thanks.
-Kevin.
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh3/enginear/100_0959Small.jpg)
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh3/enginear/100_0958Small.jpg)
I knew I had seen a good shot somewhere of the comparison. Aristo on the left MTH in the middle USA Trains on the right
Almost looks like 0 scale, doesn’t it? 
Basic answer, too small.
The interesting thing is if you compare it to the loco behind, a Challenger, it looks about right. I own a couple of the USA trains cabeese and prefer them. ( purchased them before MTH came on the scene and I went to the dark side ). What this photo does make me ask though is, what is the scale of the Aristo unit as I know the USA one is 1:29 ?
Well, the challenger is 1:32 and the MTH caboose is 1:32, so it should look perfect, indeed.
I believe the caboose is about 1:24, see my site and quote from Lewis Polk:
Greg
Answers that! Thanks Greg.
Grant- Thanks for the pics. Never thought the MTH would look that tiny!!!
-Kevin.
I made those pictures as I was looking at how big the differences were. It didn’t make sense to me that the Aristo dwarfed the MTH by that much until I compared it to the USA version. Keep in mind that the USA and the MTH are different cabooses!
The MTH caboose looks fine behind all my trains. I don’t run the Aristo because it’s oversized to my cars.
From what I own from MTH it seems like most items fit well with other 1/32 lines.
The engines, box cars, cabooses all seem the same scale wise, but for some reason there tanker cars and 4-hopper coal cars seem much bigger then they should.
I can easily run those cars with my USA/Aristo items and they blend right in, but none of the other items will.
Joe- Whoops, sorry. I didn’t know that those were your pics. So… Thanks for the pics, Joe! To my untrained eye, the MTH still looks quite small when I see it next to the USAT caboose. Does it look better when it’s running in a consist with other 1/29 rolling stock (not another caboose), rather than when you see it right next to another (1/29) caboose?
Vincent- You’ve sparked my curiosity more. Got any pics comparing MTH tankers with Aristo? Call me “Mr. curious.”
-Kevin.
dieseldude . said:
Vincent- You’ve sparked my curiosity more. Got any pics comparing MTH tankers with Aristo? Call me “Mr. curious.”
-Kevin.
I will take some pictures tonight when I get home and post them here.
I have the Aristo 3-dome tankers that I will use for comparison, and I can even add in the AML 1:20 tanker, you will see that the MTH tanker is pretty big.
But, I also don’t know if maybe the tanker MTH modeled after is a lot bigger then what the Aristo 3-dome tanker cars are.
Somebody else can probably chime in on that if they know.
The USA modern on the left with a MTH on the right. I’ll get another pic w/ the Aristo and also the caboose next to some cars next
Wait, you’re comparing the Aristo tank car from the 50’s with the MTH from the 70’s? I’d have to check scaling but they are much bigger right?
I think if you compared a real Challenger to a caboose, you might think different about the MTH’s size.
Here is what I have:
This picture is a Aristo 3-dome tanker and a MTH tanker
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/139vinny/Trains/DSC09472_zpsc1ed5bbb.jpg)
This is a AML 1:20 tanker and the MTH tanker
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/139vinny/Trains/DSC09473_zps212bbb19.jpg)
This is the Aristo tanker and the MTH caboose
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/139vinny/Trains/DSC09474_zps7211d0eb.jpg)
This is a USA caboose and the MTH caboose
(http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b107/139vinny/Trains/DSC09475_zps0732dfc4.jpg)
Let me know what else you want to see!
here’s an old tanker that’s like the Aristo:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1425827
hard to tell except it’s lower than the low hood of the loco.
Here’s a modern 20,ooo gallon one that I guess is what the MTH model is like
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2584938
or
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=3149623
I can’t find a pic comparing the two real ones as the old ones are illegal on the rails I think? We have an older DuPont framed one near our plant for fire drills and it is much smaller to look at. That one wasn’t even as old as the one the Aristo is modeled after. Newer era tank cars are frameless and double hulled and can carry much more capacity.
Here’s a wide vision caboose (without the cupola) next to a CF hopper
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1711822
They shouldn’t be as high as modern rolling stock can be. I wish I could find a picture of an old box car next to a modern one. I think you guys are mixing apples and oranges. Scale is one thing, era is another.
Add to the mix that some cars made over the years aren’t to any scale. G scale was a general term. I think some cars were more 1:20 something to make them bigger to match LGB which was also all over the map in sizes.
Real cabooses were all over the map in how they were constructed and styled I think. They’ll match up to what era you’re running. My MTH cabooses look right to huge modern rolling stock which should dwarf them anyways is my point.
Guy’s- Great pics and info.
Joe- Your right. I never even gave any thought about era. I didn’t realize that the MTH tankers were modern (70’s) era. I model 40’s and 50’s era. I think that the 3 dome tanks are actually from the 30’s. I always liked the 3 domes.
Vincent- That MTH caboose looks pretty good, scale wise, when I see it next to the 1/29 tank. It looks much smaller next to the USAT caboose. I’m pretty sure that the USAT caboose is 1/24. I could be wrong (again! LOL). I’m almost tempted to buy an MTH caboose- they make an ERIE that might look better than the somewhat large Aristo Erie caboose that I currently own. Can’t find a dealer with one, but they show up on ebay now and then. BTW, being a NY Central fan, I’m totally liking your choice of rolling stock.
-Kevin.
dieseldude . said:
Guy’s- Great pics and info.
Joe- Your right. I never even gave any thought about era. I didn’t realize that the MTH tankers were modern (70’s) era. I model 40’s and 50’s era. I think that the 3 dome tanks are actually from the 30’s. I always liked the 3 domes.
Vincent- That MTH caboose looks pretty good, scale wise, when I see it next to the 1/29 tank. It looks much smaller next to the USAT caboose. I’m pretty sure that the USAT caboose is 1/24. I could be wrong (again! LOL). I’m almost tempted to buy an MTH caboose- they make an ERIE that might look better than the somewhat large Aristo Erie caboose that I currently own. Can’t find a dealer with one, but they show up on ebay now and then. BTW, being a NY Central fan, I’m totally liking your choice of rolling stock.
-Kevin.
Well the Aristo tanker I had for a while and way back when I had purchased the MTH NYC Hudson when they first came out, never had a caboose for it until just recently when I found a dealer that had the MTH NYC Caboose in stock. But I run the Aristo 3-dome tankers with the MTH Hudson all the time, looks good to me!