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What RR Artifacts have you acquired?

Dave Taylor said:
OK my ignorance, If this is a “Late model” Pad, from 19?? till now. Is this a standard design and style?, and when did it come into wide spread usage?

I think the design is the same, but the material of the actual pad has changed over the years. That shoe that Doug posted looks like a composite shoe (very new 10-20 years ago it was designed). Passenger equipment in the same period has moved from this type of pad to disc brakes. Much more effective in braking power. The composite pads like this one

(http://www.masubrakes.com/prd/railway-composite-brake-block.jpg)

are supposedly better pads than the older style cast iron pads. I don’t think the cast iron pads were all cast iron, but a mix of cast iron and some other junk. But that’s what we called them at work. The old switch engines had the cast iron style shoes and they stopped great!

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Craig

Craig Thanks for the education. I find this kind of knowledge just neet to learn. I’m so impressed with the knowledge base of the people on this board.

Thanks
Dave

I’m looking at that brake shoe, and it appears the braking pad part ends at the central divit. That being the case, I beleive this to be a brake shoe from a car, not from a locomotive. Now, I’m an engineer, not a maintainer, so I may have this backwards, but its what I was told when talking with an engine house guy when I questioned a crack in an engine brake shoe during an inspection.


As for my collection, I have a lantern I captured off eBay for the Arcade & Attica Railroad, which in addition to being the first railroad I new of, was also the first railroad I worked for. I have a 1902 report for the stockholders’ annual meeting of the Buffalo, Attica & Arcade, which preceeded the A&A.

Last year for Xmas, my father in law got me a piece of rail from a narrow-gauge mining line in the Scranton area.

My most treasured artifacts are the pictures from my archeological explorations. I’ve explored my home area in New York, here in PA as well as the Altoona area. Coming home from Harrisburg about a month ago, I noticed… something… in the woods just east of CP-Antis. It appeared to be a small wooden bridge over a colvert, about 30 yards north of the current mainline. After tying up at Altoona Yard, I headed out to check it out before the sun set. Got into the woods, was so engrossed in this bridge I had noticed from the mainline, it took several minutes before I noticed the even bigger find: a cut-stone viaduct, same basic design as Rockville bridge (though obviously smaller). Here was hidden a piece of history that no one had noticed. I have no idea if anyone besides the 4-wheelers going though the area had known about for well over fifty years.

RJ Corman owns a section of railroad running to a local tipple. However, this used to be a PRR mine branch that extended deep into the area to serve many mine shafts and tipples. The line was cut back a couple decades ago, but the remaining grade is still visible. A little exploration with Google’s Satellite maps revealed that the rails remain in place for at least a couple miles beyond the tipple. In fact, satelite imagery from a couple years ago indicates that either a bridge disintegrated under teh line, or a washout left the track hanging in mid air… Okay, spent the last several minutes trying to find this location. Apparently my memory is worse than I realized. the bridge still appears to be in place: Google View of specified bridge

Google maps, especially with satellite imagery can be an awesome tool for archeological discoveries. If you know what to look for, you can even identify rail lines abandoned long ago.

Jason Gallaway said:
I'm looking at that brake shoe, and it appears the braking pad part ends at the central divit. That being the case, I beleive this to be a brake shoe from a car, not from a locomotive. Now, I'm an engineer, not a maintainer, so I may have this backwards, but its what I was told when talking with an engine house guy when I questioned a crack in an engine brake shoe during an inspection.
Looks like a regular pad off a freight car to me. I didn't make myself clear on that I guess. Which leads to the question, why would a carman (only person/craft qualified to change out brake pads) come up to Cajon to change pads on a car unless it was Bad Ordered in the first place? Looking at the pads and changing them is part of the whole Initial Terminal Brake Test that carman do on every single train.

Jason,
You ever get out the ruler and measure cylinder length and B/O locomotives… :open_mouth: Or make sure that the plow is 3"-6" from the top of the rail? :wink:

Craig

Craig, the shoe probably fell off the car on its own.

You should see all the spare parts littering my ROW. :smiley:

Hi all, The rain let up today so I thought I would take pictures of some of the junk laying around the railroad. I didn’t really realize how much there was until I started taking pictures, no wonder the wife complains a little. Southern Pacific target crossing flashers. These are the old analog style that I was able to aquire when they changed over to digital style. They flash alternately and light up the whole yard at night.

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/rick_marty/_forumfiles/miscpicts/rrjunk1.jpg)

An old headlight casing on the left, another target flasher (inoperative) and an old style Southern Pacific cross buck crossing sign.

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/rick_marty/_forumfiles/miscpicts/rrjunk2.jpg)

A Southern Pacific grade crossing bell “clanger” this still operates when hooked up to a 12volt battery.

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/rick_marty/_forumfiles/miscpicts/rrjunk3.jpg)

Ahhhh, the real junk pile. The tall sections of rail are from several years ago when the Southern Pacific changed over to the “ribbon rail” system. The other rail sections are from mines and logging lines around the area. The big wheel on the left is a crank wheel from a donkey engine.

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/rick_marty/_forumfiles/miscpicts/rrjunk4.jpg)

A couple of wheels a track bolt wrench and spike puller leaning against the tree.

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A depot hand truck.

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A spike hammer and another wheel.

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I just aquired this light, it is supposed to be Southern Pacific railroad but I haven’t had a chance to confirm if it is or not. Nice light though.

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/rick_marty/_forumfiles/miscpicts/rrjunk8.jpg)

Some lanterns, there are 2-3 others around here somewhere. The one on the left is a Dietz marked NYCS. The one in the center is an Adams-Westlake marked SPCo. and the one on the right is a Adlake also marked SPCo. This last one was picked up by my uncle many years ago and cleaned and repainted.

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/rick_marty/_forumfiles/miscpicts/rrjunk9.jpg)

Wood spikes and date nails.

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A closeup of a few of the date nails. The dates left to right are; 1936 1937, 1930, 1918, 1929. These are al Southern Pacific nails.

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/rick_marty/_forumfiles/miscpicts/rrjunkx11.jpg)

That is most of the hardware, I won’t even try to show the pictures, postcards, and paper. Sure is fun to find this stuff and discover the history behind it. Great thread, thanks for starting it. Rick

Rick… Neet stuff… The Fancy Brake wheel in the forth shot. Nice 5 spokes with rounded rim… Do you know its history and or vintage?

Date spikes are popular with railroaders to collect. It seems like ever railroader wants a date spike, but nobody can find any of them anymore. The oldest/newest date spike I found was 58 in one of the yards I worked at. I think the only reason it was still there was because the yard was right in front of the terminal managers office, and nobody was brave enough to pull it out!

Craig… not a ruler, but a dollar bill for the brake piston!

Jason Gallaway said:
Craig... not a ruler, but a dollar bill for the brake piston!
That works too! :)

I got a N&W car stencil from 1964, Full crossing with working light and a southern railway ticket window back painted glass and 2 engener lanters and several regular lanters laying around and 10 feet of rail.

While I don’t have a lot I do have some unique things that I have bought and come across along my time in the hobby. I am mostly a 3’ NG guy so many of my things are related to that. First is some sections of rail that my friend has cut into 1.5" sections

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I bought a axe head off ebay a few months ago. no bidders and like 10.00 Looks as it was a hatchet or a sort of track tool. It has a pretty good sized nail claw

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Very early track spike used on the DRG/DSP

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A boiler stay bolt from the K27 that was being working on when I was in Chama a few years ago.

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Being a NJ native I have a switch lamp from the Central RR of NJ

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My only British lamp a hand signal lamp

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I have a few ship lamps and I rewired this one for a standard bulb.

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I also have a few more items that I didn’t photograph. DRGW wooden casting pattern DRGW cab water bag A bunch of drawings/blueprints for various engines, K27 28 36 37, C16 Unitah 2662 among others.

@Daniel, I would love to see a pic of the car stencil, I assume that its full size, actually quite large.

You guys sure have some nice memorbilia especially you Rick and Doug having your grandfathers lantern is really cool. My little piece of RR treasure came from the Cog Railway in NH. My wife had bought us season passes for my Birthday one year and we ended up making 4 trips up the mountain including one with the steam engine pushing us. The first time we were there we visited the shops to take some photos and I noticed a big pile of scrap metal. The next time we went up I thought how cool would it be to have a genuine piece of the cog! We went back to the shops and the scrap pile was gone. I asked a worker there what had happened to it since I was hoping to pull out a little souvenir and he told me to go check beside a shed and if there was anything there I could have it. Sure enough there was a couple of pieces. I grabbed one, thanked him and off we went. Man that thing is heavy. I thought about making a bridge out of it on the layout but haven’t found a good spot to highlight it yet.

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/capecodtodd/_forumfiles/cograilwaypiece.jpg)

Todd That is way cool, any guesstament as to its vintage?

Those cog engines are weird looking with their off level boilers!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Mount_Washington_Cog_Railway_Kroflite.jpg/640px-Mount_Washington_Cog_Railway_Kroflite.jpg)

Sorry That “British” lamp is an old oil type lamp used to night mark parts of a road or sidewalk when being dug up and left overnight…NOT a railway lamp.

Dave I don’t know about the vintage but the Cog Railway started in 1869. I doubt it is all that old but perhaps a piece of scrap they cut off a longer piece to do a repair. I like to believe it was used somewhere on the route. Since most of the railway is on a incline they needed the crooked boilers to keep it working right. The steamers have mostly been retired to bio diesel mechanicals and you can understand why. The bios use under 20 gallons of fuel to go up with one man driving while the steamers use 3000 gallons of water and a ton of coal and a 2 man crew. They still run the steamers on special occasions and for the first run of the day. We had one push us up and it was a bumpy beast of a ride compared to the smooth running diesels. Another cool fact about the cog up near the top is a trestle named Jacobs ladder and it has a grade of 37.41%. The conductor invites you to stand up and it is a weird experience. Nice photo Joe , you must have visited. Here is another angle of a engine on flatter ground and it sure looks funky. The little green roofed doghouse behind houses a motor for a slide table. It is a really neat RR place to check out.

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/capecodtodd/_forumfiles/cogengine9.jpg)

(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/slatecreek/_forumfiles/mwtrnweb.jpg)

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This was in 2002. Note in the 2nd photo, I’m celebrating the “Yes” answer by taking up the crew on their offer to blow the whistle to call folks back to the train. (That was also probably the only time the traditional “14-L” was blown from the summit!) Sadly, it’s all automated and dieselized now … guess we got this done just in time! Note that if you look through the whole stable of what was once an impressive fleet, there’s three different designs (at least.) First one is what you see in both of the above examples… the boiler is slanted down so as to be level on the grade, but the cab is level on the flat, and slanted up the hill on the grade.

(http://www.cog-railway.com/curloco/twoa.gif)

Type B had a cab that was level with the boiler, and therefore level on the hill and nose down on the flats … I believe only one locomotive was ever set up this way

(http://www.cog-railway.com/curloco/nineb.gif)

… and finally, there was a design where both the cab and smokestack were level on the flat, and the boiler was slanted so as to be level on the hill, so the cab and smokebox were both tilted going up.

(http://www.cog-railway.com/curloco/eightb.gif)

Matthew OV OH! Railroad artifacts … almost forgot. I have a New York Central oval bridge sign about 4’ wide … currently on the wall of my shop until I find something better to do with it. Also have a Hancock 4700 whistle, and a yearly collection of NH timetables dating back to 1897 … and a few other things. One of these days I’ll figure out how to display some of it. My latest thing is a NH switch lamp that’s wired for a regular lamp at the top … as soon as I can find a shade, and someplace the cats can’t knock it over, it’ll be a centerpiece!

Forgot about my aluminum replica plate of Canadian National 2-6-0 E-10a #91 located on the Middletown & Hummelstown.

Also have a lightbulb that blew while in service in Arcade & Attica 2-8-0 No.18’s front headlight, and a few parts from the steam-heat lines which were torched off the A&A’s coaches in the mid-90’s when propane radiant heaters were installed.