Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
BTW on that rail joint business, that wouldn’t work all that well if the joints are staggered.
Oh sure Hans go and ruin it.
Joints are staggering? Sound a bit suspect, if you ask me.
Am I missing something here? If you have a watch to accurataly time 20 seconds of counting rail joints, then why not just time the mile markers? Seems like a no brainer to me. If you don’t have a watch, then how accurate is the twenty seconds that you count the thumpities from?
Dave Taylor said:
Am I missing something here? If you have a watch to accurataly time 20 seconds of counting rail joints, then why not just time the mile markers? Seems like a no brainer to me. If you don’t have a watch, then how accurate is the twenty seconds that you count the thumpities from?
maybe on a slower moving train it would take to long between markers? The total length of my railroad prototype was 27 miles and had 6 stops in that distance. Of course I dont think speed was an issue either. If a train was doing sixty mile markers would make sense. but if its going 15 not so much
Devon Sinsley said:
Dave Taylor said:
Am I missing something here? If you have a watch to accurataly time 20 seconds of counting rail joints, then why not just time the mile markers? Seems like a no brainer to me. If you don’t have a watch, then how accurate is the twenty seconds that you count the thumpities from?
maybe on a slower moving train it would take to long between markers? The total length of my railroad prototype was 27 miles and had 6 stops in that distance. Of course I dont think speed was an issue either. If a train was doing sixty mile markers would make sense. but if its going 15 not so much
Railroads still publish in the special instructions speed tables (ie how many minutes/seconds for each mile) for speeds from 1mph to max. Timing the mile marker was and still is a legal way to check your speed if the speedometer goes out in route. I think the newspaper article was adding a bit of ‘fluff’ and wouldn’t be unusual given that time frame.
Craig Townsend said:
I think the newspaper article was adding a bit of ‘fluff’ and wouldn’t be unusual given that time frame.
Now I wouldn’t argue that at all especially this paper. Some of their articles were interesting.
Devon Sinsley said:
Craig Townsend said:
I think the newspaper article was adding a bit of ‘fluff’ and wouldn’t be unusual given that time frame.
Now I wouldn’t argue that at all especially this paper. Some of their articles were interesting.
What paper is this from? BTW I’ve been meaning to ask you what school your doing your research with. A couple years back I did my MA in History thesis on a railroad proposal(s) at the North end of Yellowstone Park.
Craig Townsend said:
Devon Sinsley said:
Craig Townsend said:
I think the newspaper article was adding a bit of ‘fluff’ and wouldn’t be unusual given that time frame.
Now I wouldn’t argue that at all especially this paper. Some of their articles were interesting.
What paper is this from? BTW I’ve been meaning to ask you what school your doing your research with. A couple years back I did my MA in History thesis on a railroad proposal(s) at the North end of Yellowstone Park.
Well Craig there are several answers to your questions. First the paper is the Wallace Free Press from Wallace Idaho. At the time this town was maybe a couple hundred people. It was founded in 1884 and this paper was 1888 so you can imagine it wasn’t a high quality publication. But it is entertaining to read. It was very politically bias and sided with the republican mine owners. It has a tendencay to villianize the miners and make heros out of the more effluent people.
As for my schooling I am attending Liberty Baptist Theological Seminary seeking my Masters of Divinity-Chaplaincy.
History is a total hobby. I am writing a book on the early history of the Coeur d’Alene Mining District specifically its need for a railroad to move the ore of the new mining region. It will culminate with the termination of the narrow gauge rr. It spans about 15 years total time. So the research is not related to school. It is a personal endeavor.
Oh I thought that they were related… My thesis sounds along the same lines. Back channel me if want and we can talk history. Is the line associated with the NP at all?
Craig Townsend said:
Oh I thought that they were related… My thesis sounds along the same lines. Back channel me if want and we can talk history. Is the line associated with the NP at all?
Yes almost directly related. As you probably know NP’s charter did not allow them to branch. At least not very far. So D.C. Corbin, financed by ex Montana Territory Governor Sam Hauser knew that NP would want a connection. So he built this line starting in 1886 and completed it in 1887 and by 1888 leased it to NP for 999 years. I am sure that this was the intent all along. This allowed NP to beat UP by way of the Washington & Idaho to the region by two years.
Not to mention Hauser and company were heavily invested in a smelter in Wicks Montana and this allowed them to fix the rates to ensure the Wicks facility received all or most of the ore. It cost $5.00 a ton to Wicks and nearly triple that to anywhere else even if it was closer. And the Wicks facility was served by NP as opposed to the other options which heavily relied on UP and its affiliates. So they were all in bed together.