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The Bachmann "Emily" Sterling Single...upgrades

OK, Jerry and Greg,

I got my “Emily” and the Smallbrook kit, so I am all set to roll . . .

Does either of you have a drawing of the prototype? I’m just wondering if it really is 1:22.5 scale - the wheels look very close together under that body. It looks as if it should be running on gauge-3 (2.5") track.

Pete Thornton said:

Does either of you have a drawing of the prototype? I’m just wondering if it really is 1:22.5 scale - the wheels look very close together under that body. It looks as if it should be running on gauge-3 (2.5") track.

They kind of looked that way on the studio model too, at least to me. http://ttte.wikia.com/wiki/Emily%27s_New_Coaches/Gallery?file=Emily%27sNewCoaches29.png

Though I don’t much watch TV and movies I did watch a few episodes of TTE back in the day when they used actual models on a studio set.

As far as scale, how does one with any certainty determine the scale of a model of an animated studio prop model?

http://ttte.wikia.com/wiki/Emily%27s_New_Coaches/Gallery?file=Emily%27sNewCoaches46.png

Forrest Scott Wood said:

Pete Thornton said:

Does either of you have a drawing of the prototype? I’m just wondering if it really is 1:22.5 scale - the wheels look very close together under that body. It looks as if it should be running on gauge-3 (2.5") track.

They kind of looked that way on the studio model too, at least to me. http://ttte.wikia.com/wiki/Emily%27s_New_Coaches/Gallery?file=Emily%27sNewCoaches29.png

Though I don’t much watch TV and movies I did watch a few episodes of TTE back in the day when they used actual models on a studio set.

As far as scale, how does one with any certainty determine the scale of a model of an animated studio prop model?

http://ttte.wikia.com/wiki/Emily%27s_New_Coaches/Gallery?file=Emily%27sNewCoaches46.png

Well, I know it is “Thomas” scale, but often the size turns out to be pretty close to a normal scale, like 1:22.5. If they too ktoo many liberties with the dimensions, you’d end up with a loco that’s too short, too tall, or whatever.

I’ll settle for someone telling me how long the prototype was.

P.S. Thanks for the links - now I know why Bachmann produced green coaches for Emily! I think I’ll settle for converting some IP Engineering coaches to something more like a GNR coach.

The drive wheel is 4", the Stirling’s wheel was 8’, so right at 1/25 for that.I got a book on them and the dimensions on the Emily are close, except for that notched area. I think I posted a picture/drawing of it when I did my bash, if someone can find it.

Here’s a drawing from a book of the Sterling. Change the cab a little.

Has anyone figured out the wiring for power pickup, from the looks of it, 3 axles pick up power, but looking at the Bachmann exploded drawings, there’s no wiring shown, or pickup pieces…

Has anyone opened up the parts to show the pickup connections to the wheels?

Perhaps I can do a tender pickup… thinking of making it dual with either track pickup or the Revolution DCC system… the tender needs some weight.

Greg

I know there is a lot of interest here in Patrick Stirling’s (note spelling) singles, so a few links for added interest.

https://www.lner.info/eng/stirling.php

https://collection.sciencemuseum.org.uk/objects/co8352583/great-northern-railway-locomotive-stirling-single-steam-locomotive.

Alan Lott said:

I know there is a lot of interest here in Patrick Stirling’s (note spelling) singles, so a few links for added interest.

https://www.lner.info/eng/stirling.php

https://collection.sciencemuseum.org.uk/objects/co8352583/great-northern-railway-locomotive-stirling-single-steam-locomotive.

That’s impressive, "Stirling was well-liked by the railwaymen of the GNR. For his 70th birthday, they erected a fountain in his honour in Doncaster, and 3000 GNR railwaymen braved pouring rain to accompany his funeral procession when he died in 1895. "

I just have to wonder why there isn’t a full cab on those things. I guess protecting the crew wasn’t high on Stirling’s list of priorities.

David Maynard said:

I just have to wonder why there isn’t a full cab on those things. I guess protecting the crew wasn’t high on Stirling’s list of priorities.

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No “featherbedding” in those days! (http://largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-tongue-out.gif)

See here and click on each loco.

http://www.victorianweb.org/technology/railways/locomotives.html.

There are quite a few without cabs .

Ross, I know there were many designs without cabs, or without full cabs. I can only imagine how miserable it was, plowing along through the rain at the speeds they went.

But did the Edwardian drivers and firemen benefit from this invention?

In April 1908, the London, Brighton & South Coast Railway unveiled a steam locomotive cab air conditioning system to keep their drivers and firemen comfortable in summer and winter.

http://www.rail.co.uk/rail-news/2016/april-fool/

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Today in railpictures dot net, a close in “port bow” view of a GNR 4-2-2 single.

http://www.railpictures.net/photo/673711/

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During the school holidays the National Railway museum demonstrated, twice a day, how a turntable worked. They used one of the most beautiful locomotives ever designed , a Stirling 8 foot single. These 19th century loconmotives were used to haul expresses from London to Edinburgh in the days when rail travel was elegant.

This interesting site shows how the wheel arrangements developed in Britain. There were many ‘singles’ type locomotives designed by different engineers for their railways.

http://glostransporthistory.visit-gloucestershire.co.uk/Single%20Driver%20Locomotives.htm