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Site Changes #3 (10/4/2017)

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#21

Bob McCown said:

OK, not doing this. On to the next bad idea.

For those of you that never scroll up Bob has already abandoned this idea. I would like to propose the next bad idea.

This was brought up two years ago and again more recently in the past week or so. Build logs or other “just the facts only” meat and potato threads where the OP is the moderator.

What I am proposing: The OP is not the moderator but has the choice when they start a new thread / topic to choose between, “Allow comments” or “do not allow comments”. I am not sure if the software supports this but I think it would be easier than trying to give moderator rights on individual threads. This option would only appear in the topics such as, Modeling, figures, electronics etc…

Why I am proposing this: A build log is a lot of work. It doubles the effort required on any project. It would be nice to have these as “just the facts” since to many side discussions and extraneous comments get added. It would prevent thread drift and hijacking. A parallel discussion thread could be opened in the general category for any and all comments. Questions of a direct nature (can you post a better pic from the far side) could be made through the message feature and the OP could respond in the thread without junking it up.

Now that I have hijacked BD’s wiki thread… I just want to say “Shut Up Rooster” this is way better than your suggestion to put a pizza oven in the chat bar.

#22

Nah…I’m going to disagree. Holy moly, I’ve had a lot, if not all, of my threads “interrupted”. If you want to be not interrupted, you can do it in an article. Then you can start a discussion about your article.

From my point of view, I love going back and reading all of the comments. I HAVE gone back and made articles out of some of my build threads, but I’m not sure if reading the article is any better for it. Hmmm, could just be the quality of my work? (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-foot-in-mouth.gif)

And, on the plus side, many of the comments have been great suggestions that actually improved my model. (Well, not ALL of them! (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-foot-in-mouth.gif))

#23

So Boom, (may I call you “Boom” for short?) what you’re saying is that one option would be to eliminate all comments, including words of encouragement, such as “Good work” and a back-slapping “Atta boy, keep it up”, and recommendations such as “Well, what I would do is…”? Are they boring and/or a waste of the readers’ time? I guess some would prefer to hear the sound of silence after posting, that would be OK. I like feedback myself…and what about answering with condolences? I guess you’d opt for the other option to accept replies for that. Is there an app for that? Or a toggle switch to turn that on and off?

#24

Hmm, I like allowing the OP to make a choice, but in the Articles forum only.

So Bruce can allow comments on his build thread, and Boomer can keep his build thread focused on the material.

There’s good arguments on both sides… and everyong can be happy!

My friend Ted Doskaris publishes his “build threads” (actually articles he calls “vignettes”) on my site because it allows a complete article to be written and formatted and also later updated as needed. When he “published” the entire “vignette” on a site, often the focus was taken from the subject, and at the very least diluted the information.

This is also a reason why I put pages on my site that are intended to be helpful instructions or reference material.

Again, you guys are both right in my opinion, but the ability to choose to integrate comments or not could be a very good option, and also, in my mind, is the justification for having a separate “Articles” forum.

Letting this happen on the forum proper starts to smack of censorship. I’ve made a lot of friends, but also some enemies, and if they had the ability to just rip my comments out selectively, which clearly some would do, then it really takes away the spirit of a forum.

Greg

#25

Bruce

Then you would select, “allow comments” on your threads. Since the OP is doing the Lions share of the work I think it should be up to them.

Your post brings up an interesting idea. Very simply everybody who reads this indicate if you would post more build logs if you could choose the “do not allow comments” option.

Remember I said this was the next bad idea… (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-tongue-out.gif)

#26

Articles allow the author to determine who can comment on the post. I’d rather not try and implement that in the forums as well.

#27

See how dumb I am… well, I like it! (not being dumb, the fact you can allow or not allow comments)…

Can you change it from no comments to comments after the thread is underway?

Greg

#28

Michael Kirrene said:

So Boom, (may I call you “Boom” for short?)

No…you haven’t even bought me dinner or flowers yet. but if you insist I guess it will be okay if I can call you Dorothy. (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

#29

Bob McCown said:

Articles allow the author to determine who can comment on the post. I’d rather not try and implement that in the forums as well.

BD how are the comments controlled? It looks like the same format as every other topic on the forums?.

#30

Boomer K MOGWAI said:

Bob McCown said:

Articles allow the author to determine who can comment on the post. I’d rather not try and implement that in the forums as well.

BD how are the comments controlled? It looks like the same format as every other topic on the forums?.

When you create an article, at the bottom is a select box “Comment Privacy”. That controls who can comment on your article.

#31

Bob McCown said:

Articles allow the author to determine who can comment on the post. I’d rather not try and implement that in the forums as well.

Well, how cool is that? The suggestion is already implemented!(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif)

#32

Bob McCown said:

Boomer K MOGWAI said:

Bob McCown said:

Articles allow the author to determine who can comment on the post. I’d rather not try and implement that in the forums as well.

BD how are the comments controlled? It looks like the same format as every other topic on the forums?.

When you create an article, at the bottom is a select box “Comment Privacy”. That controls who can comment on your article.

Not only that, but you can select edit for an article published 10 years ago and change your mind! Woo hoo!(https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)

#33

I went to create an article, and I don’t see any box “comment privacy”… (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-frown.gif)

Do you have to create the new article first, and then edit?

ooops… You cannot got the Articles forum to do this, you have to create it from the Articles dropdown on the main horizontal menu…

wow, I finally see the reason to have “friends” on this forum, you can make your own “clique”

(By the way Boomer, that quote was actually written by Beatrice Evelyn Hall… not Voltaire. Google her… you’ll see.)

Greg

#34

BD is ahead of the power curve…for some reason that seems wrong. (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-foot-in-mouth.gif)

#35

Greg Elmassian said:

(By the way Boomer, that quote was actually written by Beatrice Evelyn Hall… not Voltaire. Google her… you’ll see.)

Quote: “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” (“Je désapprouve ce que vous dites, mais je défendrai à la mort votre droit à le dire”)

What Voltaire actually said was “Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too” from Voltaire’s Essay on Tolerance – that certainly doesn’t have quite the same ring to it. The misquote actually comes from a 1907 book called Friends of Voltaire, by Evelyn Beatrice Hall.

From this website… http://listverse.com/2008/05/15/top-10-famous-historic-misquotes/

Greg I counted 47 websites who misquote this. Imagine how much fun you will have contacting each and everyone of them to let them know you are correct and they are wrong. (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)

I will return to quoting only from the book of Boomer.

#36

Greg Elmassian said:

I went to create an article, and I don’t see any box “comment privacy”… (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-frown.gif)

Do you have to create the new article first, and then edit?

ooops… You cannot got the Articles forum to do this, you have to create it from the Articles dropdown on the main horizontal menu…

wow, I finally see the reason to have “friends” on this forum, you can make your own “clique”

(By the way Boomer, that quote was actually written by Beatrice Evelyn Hall… not Voltaire. Google her… you’ll see.)

Greg

Well, I did it MY way…I went to Articles from the top menu bar. Then selected “Add new article”.

I get this screen, which allows ME to control the world! (Well, maybe just the article (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-foot-in-mouth.gif))

#37

Bruce controls the world, Greg is correct, BD is ahead of the complaints…I have created monsters.

#38

But we love you Boomer!

(as long as you don’t get wet or especially eat after midnight)

Greg

#39

Boomer K MOGWAI said:

I will return to quoting only from the book of Boomer.

“When the pin is out, Mr Grenade is no longer your friend” - Boomer 3:14

#40

Boomer K MOGWAI said:

…Greg I counted 47 websites who misquote this. Imagine how much fun you will have contacting each and everyone of them to let them know you are correct and they are wrong. (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-laughing.gif)

…

That shouldn’t be a problem. He’s the only person we know who reads every single post on over fifty forums!!