Large Scale Central

Rebuilding the Trackage at John Allen

Update - September 7th, just less than one month to go before the Midwest Large Scale Train Show, October 3 -4, 2008.

All scenery/ballasting is in place. I’ve had a couple of minor adjustments/setbacks/redisigns. The “Flood Wall” had to be made removable for the attachment to the GGRC layout. It was just too tall to be acceptable. So this entailed running each module through the table saw and cutting off the integrated “Flood Wall”. So done and removable walls were built to replace them. Big mistake here, I used a lessor quality plywood, so a lot of time was put in to fillling and fairing the new walls. My next chance to under excel was the over engineering of attaching the new Flood wall. I thought I’d get those captured nut anchors and place them in the modules. They don’t work worth a durn. So I had to fill in the holes and go back to the simple fasteners of wall board screws. When you wallow out the hole to big, fill it in with epoxy and start over. The last of those holes are being filled to day and drying while I type this. It really wasn’t that big of task and I had a lot of other things that were going to take longer to dry.

Electrical wiring for the KVRwy.

Pretty simple. One connection for track power to Aristo TE and then from there to the transformer. Really just the same as for the KVRwy. Using split jaw railclamps, so the rail is the electrical buss with the wiring, shown above, for positive connection around the turnouts.

Electrical wiring for the GGRC.

The hard part. Objective needed to achieve traditional old block isolation. Insulated rails will be through insulated split jaw rail clamps replacing the traditional clamps on the tracks that need isolating. Also need to have local power for track powered equipment to run seperate from the GGRC main layout, but also the ability for every track to have access to the main power from the outside loop of the main layout. Using double pole, double throw electrical switches for this and hid the track plan inside one of the buildings on the transition module. I’ll have pictures of all this in the next couple of days as the Timesaver Switch Yard modules get set up in the garage along with the transition module and the main GGRC module that it all connects to.

The whole testing of this part of the work has been delayed by the need to put the hardtop back on the jeep, so it could be left outside. That happened last week as weather turned cool and rainey with the approaching hurricanes, as they move up through the middle of the Nation. So I’ve now got plenty of garage space and the electrical conduit legs are all on the modules. Soon as that epoxy is dry, and I have time, it will all be assembled.

Thanks for your interest.

Your welcome…:wink:

Looking forward to the progress pictures :smiley:

Hmmmmm, must be just in the “Off-Topic Forum” where Rics flag waves. Then again, according to Jon, it’s much windier in there than here…:wink:

It is flying for me. Give it a few seconds to pick up the breeze.

Sometimes it waves, and other times it doesn’t. Must have something to do with the wind over at www.coronanorco.com :smiley:

Okay, I promised some pictures Here are the modules up on its legs in the garage.

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A couple of pictures of the modules together, I apologize for the quality it has been difficult to get good shots in the garage.

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Notice the roof off the second freight shed.

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Here is how the controls for the track powered blocks will be handled when the modules are hooked to the GGRC’s modular layout.

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The electrical wiring is only for the club layout. It won’t be used when the modules are independent, nor when it is hooked to the KVRwy. So a wiring chase was created through the modules.

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And here it is with the harness run through it.

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The control panel can be hidden by the roof of the building.

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Here is a picture from the club module to the yard.

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And the deserted yard with equipment ready to be put into use when the yard opens at the Midwest Large Scale Train Show in Springfield, Illinois on October 3, 2008.

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That’s pretty impressive Ric. A lot more than just a rebuild. I can’t wait to see it in person.

Wow…and I thought I was one for complicating trackwork! hehehehehe

Bruce,
The rebuild was 100%. Even the wood for the modules is new, the only thing that was reused was the track. I have added a couple of extra turnouts allowing for 2 run arounds when hooked to the KVRwy and 3 run arounds when independent or hooked to the club’s modules, that is if you can get on the main for a few minutes.

Bart,
You said - “Wow…and I thought I was one for complicating trackwork! hehehehehe”. I try to work like the real railroads, you have a need and create a solution.

Ric,

That is impressive and a great job once again.

Todd Siddle

WOW, Nice clamps!!! Are they special order green???

<he’s gonna hit me, when he see’s me>

Nice work, Ric… The electrical looks sharp, inside of the roof…

Don’t let him see you first!

The modules are apart again and heading back for the basement for final painting, after labelling and testing circuits. The “transition module” is being ballasted using the technique mentioned in the latest MR. The “seawalls” have been installed and I’m waiting for a couple more of the insulated “Split Jaws” to complete the Freight Yard track plan and wiring.

I think we are about done and could use some good drying time. Has anyone had a problem with Latex
paint never really drying and always being a little sticky causing modules to stick together? I wonder if you could seal it with a dull coat Krylon Satin Finish to seal the surfaces that touch each other? Andy C. has had the same problem with some modules for the inside switching/storage modules. They are 2 years old and still sticking together. Comments appreciated.

I can’t say that I’ve ever had that problem. Was the paint old? Thinned too much? Is the Krylon oil based? Will that go over latex?

I’ve got more questions than answers. Sorry.

I’d say, Ric, you may have gotten a bad batch of paint. Never had a problem with latex paint taking a long time to dry. It usually dries rather quickly.

Steve,
Please reread my question. I haven’t used the Krylon, I was thinking of using Krylon to try to resolve the problem.

Ken,
It dries quickly and there is no notice of a problem. We stack painted surfaces together after being very dry and you have to pop them apart. The panels Andy painted are at least a couple of years old. It doesn’t seem to be happening with any certain can of Latex Paint, but with all brands and ages of Latex Paint. Andy Clarke’s paint and mine are certainly not the same batch. It’s just an observation of painted surfaces, sort of sticking together. It may be just this God awful humidity we live with here in the Midwest.

Ric Golding said:
[i]<Snip[/i] It may be just this God awful humidity we live with here in the Midwest.
I'd guess that's the problem. When damp smooth surfaces are put together, they tend to stick.

Actually yeah Ric…I painted a bookcase like that once with latex…and until I started using it as a TV stand in the bunker…and it got a fine dusting of sawdust on it…stuff stuck to it…particularly the track pliniths that I stored locomotives on for display…