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"The Original" Kittom Lumber Co.

" Rooster " said:

LOVE IT!

Thanks Mr R. Now we don’t use whips to get our horse teams and “Jacks” (donkeys/mules) to get our work done. A softly spoken word and the teams know just what to do.

Doc Tom " a mule whisperer"

David Maynard said:

Doc, I hate to ask at such a point in your project, but; did you run a magnet over the dried dirt to make sure you don’t get iron particles. They tend to seek out motors and can do damage.

I like layouts that use real dirt and materials. I used real dirt and some real rock (very small rocks) on my HO/HOn30 module. And, for the NG part of my module, I didn’t use ballast neither. Who needs to spend the cash on that stuff anyway?

So far no metal found. Critters were killed off with the oven treatment. Thanks for the concern. Doc Tom

Tom Grabenstein said:

" Rooster " said:

LOVE IT!

Thanks Mr R. Now we don’t use whips to get our horse teams and “Jacks” (donkeys/mules) to get our work done. A softly spoken word and the teams know just what to do.

Doc Tom " a mule whisperer"

I can see this working with the right incentive .

The other, is that this is a backwoods operation relying on saws, axes, froes, and adzes as primary tools. No stone masons in the whole dad burn bunch. I am looking forward to seeing what you guys come up with though. Should be fun.

Doc Tom

So are we going to see some of this work?

Going with the theme … real sticks?

this pic does it for me!

that looks so real-world… i will have to try that as well!

you mention “wet water” i know, that is a mixture of… … yeah, of what?

A pinch of dish soap in the water. Makes it wetter…(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)

Relieves the “surface tension” of the water.

I use rubbing alcohol instead of dish soap. The idea is to break the surface tension of the water and make it flow better.

Sean McGillicuddy said:

Tom Grabenstein said:

" Rooster " said:

LOVE IT!

Thanks Mr R. Now we don’t use whips to get our horse teams and “Jacks” (donkeys/mules) to get our work done. A softly spoken word and the teams know just what to do.

Doc Tom " a mule whisperer"

I can see this working with the right incentive .

The other, is that this is a backwoods operation relying on saws, axes, froes, and adzes as primary tools. No stone masons in the whole dad burn bunch. I am looking forward to seeing what you guys come up with though. Should be fun.

Doc Tom

So are we going to see some of this work?

Going with the theme … real sticks?

Hi Sean,

Back about 20 years ago I used that very prototype picture to build this log crib bridge on my HO “stick hauler.”

I will be using natural wood on the trestle bridge but more along the lines of a “pole trestle” bridge. Stay tuned. Doc tom

Wow! Too interesting!!! Great picture, thanks for sharing.

Tom Grabenstein said: Stay tuned. Doc tom

Me watch!!!

Looks so much better using natural material from around the yard. You cant get much more realistic then that.

A primitive logging bridge.

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/DSC08110_zps0xdfidhh.jpg)

My Kittom logging outfit Is a simple low budget logging railroad operation. Established at the turn of the 20th Century the railroad was built with saws, axes , mules , horses and human power.

When confronted with crossing creeks and hollows and gorges the construction crews made use of the materials at hand and their woodworking skills.

Here are a few pictures of prototype primitive logging bridges. When there was no piledriver to construct bents for bridges a large tree was felled and notched to provide a base for the upright parts of a bent.

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/Pole%20Bents_zpsqk6u6vda.jpg)

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The beams for the track ties were shaped using froes, adzes and draw knives.

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/FROE_zpsylihhvos.jpg)

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/Adze_zpsukmsxc84.jpg)

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/Draw%20knife_zpsv2yc2ctc.jpg)

To model this primitive bridge I used natural materials including straight twigs. The twigs were given two flat edges using a #11 Exacto knife very carefully.

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/IMG_1952_zpsynztdbj9.jpg)

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/IMG_1954_zpsaauueqni.jpg)

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/IMG_1953_zpscbgey3gd.jpg)

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/DSC08113_zpsjjzeksoc.jpg)

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The base log was notched like the prototype to accept the upright logs that would become the bent.

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/IMG_1958_zpsbdtlltc5.jpg)

I fashioned a cardboard jig to build the bent and the individual parts were affixed and glued together with carpenter’s wood glue.

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/IMG_1956_zpsecnetjyz.jpg)

A log retaining wall was fashioned at the beginning of the bridge

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/DSC08106_zpspjhhm8is.jpg)

I placed braces and used NBW castings to secure the upright logs in the bents.

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/DSC08109_zpsgvupf15m.jpg)

Everything fit given the irregular shapes of the twigs in use and the bridge was strong enough to carry the weight of a train.

(http://i542.photobucket.com/albums/gg412/DrGrab/Kittom%20Lumber%20the%20Original/DSC08108_zpsy25la5zh.jpg)

Thanks for L (http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/images/bigeyes_125.gif)(http://www.railroad-line.com/forum/images/bigeyes_125.gif)KING. Doc Tom

Super Duper Tom,

That’s going to be one fantastic rustic trestle! Excellent joinery.

Tom

Wow, So awesome. Its all the little things.(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif)

Shawn Viggiano said:

Looks so much better using natural material from around the yard. You cant get much more realistic then that.

It is a little like bringing a Garden Rail Road indoors.

Doc Tom

Tom Bowdler said:

Super Duper Tom,

That’s going to be one fantastic rustic trestle! Excellent joinery.

Tom

Thanks Tom. I did have to look up “joinery”…pretty neat word for wooden construction. Thanks for the edumacation.

Tom

Ron Tremblay said:

Wow, So awesome. Its all the little things.(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif)

On this little mini layout, 48"X30", you can really concentrate on small areas and go wild with the details.

Tom

" Rooster " said:

Hi Rooster,

Why I’ll drink to that too.

Doc Tom

Excellent craftsmanship Tom. As I started reading, I thought, wow, he is really constructing this bridge just as they would have in the early 1900’s, right up to the point where you said you used Carpenter’s wood glue, lol. I have really enjoyed watching your progress and look forward to more.

I don’t see any blood so I will say ya dun good!..(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)