Wonderful build. Thanks for sharing.
Terry
Nice job, Pete. How did you end up doing the grab irons? They look great!
Bruce Chandler said:The grabs are the usual - brass wire with the ends bent with "Wire Looping Pliers", and brass escutcheon pins holding them in place. I made a little jig (2 headless pins in a piece of wood) to make sure they all came out the same size. The pliers came from Michaels: [url]http://michaels.com/Wire-Looping-Pliers/bd0931,default,pd.html[/url]
Nice job, Pete. How did you end up doing the grab irons? They look great!
It was a long weekend - trip cancelled, powere failed, but the sun shone so I finished the hopper and took it outside for some beauty shots among the geraniums. The wood grain certainly came out.
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Outstanding!
I apologize for bringing this back up, but I am interested in the plans, and am getting a broken link. The model looks great, any chance of seeing the interior? Finally, would these cars have carried ore on the EBT?
Thanks,
Adam
Adam Chilcote said:
Finally, would these cars have carried ore on the EBT?Thanks,
Adam
Probably not, the EBT was a coal hauling line.
Reason I ask is that I know the EBT did haul ore to some extent at least in earlier years, not sure if this was the case later.
EBT did haul ganister Rock to the brick plants in Mt. Union. I believe that operation didn’t begin until after the wood cars were gone, but I could be wrong. Like Ken said, their primary product was coal.
Early area product was Iroo for the Rockhill Furnace. Our learned participant Kevin Strong can probably enlighten as to how much processed iron was hauled out of the valley by rail to the connection at Mt. Union and how much iron ore was hauled to the furnace by rail. There is a lot of slag immediately south of Orbisonia, so I think there had to be a lot of iron ore hauled in at one time.
Quote:There was. Someone found a use for it, so the slag pile/mound behind the south leg of the wye was picked up and dumped in trucks and hauled away a few years ago. There was a loading dock underneath tht no-one knew about!
is a lot of slag immediately south of Orbisonia,
I think the comments are right - iron ore was hauled to the furnaces, which were along the beginning of the Shady Gap branch, if my memory is correct. I assume iron was hauled out by rail, as there wasn’t much alternative!
Adam Chilcote said:
I apologize for bringing this back up, but I am interested in the plans, and am getting a broken link. The model looks great, any chance of seeing the interior? Finally, would these cars have carried ore on the EBT? Thanks, Adam
Adam, I’ve reloaded the files so the .PDF is back. I’ve no idea where it went. The interior was never supposed to be seen, so the pins from the side stakes were very visible. I then decided my old train would be empties. Once #7 had the old-style domes, we were in business - here’s the consist at Dr Rivet’s steamup in Oct. (It’s 1910, and #7 has just been rebuilt after the roundhouse fire. Two Pressed Steel Co hoppers have been delivered, but the majority of the equipment is still the wooden cars and hoppers purchased from the Michigan ore railroads. The caboose, #26, is not ready - see my other thread!)
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But I digress. I dealt with the interior by clipping any extra-long pins and lining it with paper. Once it had a good coat of flat black, it was fine - the wrinkles look like damage to the steel lining.
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And here it is in the carrier waiting to head for FL. Next stop: TARR!
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[Incidentally, these hoppers lasted until the 1930s. EBT was building their own 2 bay and then 3-bay steel hoppers usng vulcan trucks - the big wooden hoppers had vulcans added when they got the steel lining. The PSC hoppers were actually longer than the Bachmann 2-bay you see in the photos, and they had archbars (thanks, Bruce!) The wooden hoppers were scrapped eventually and some of the trucks reused on the four ROCK 2-bay hoppers - the ones Bachmann modelled.]
Thanks, Pete! I’ll have to get to work on building one now.
Adam Chilcote said:Adam,
Thanks, Pete! I'll have to get to work on building one now.
As mentioned earlier in the thread, I got some ‘proper’ plans from Bill Adams, and they have the correct dimensions, etc. I have them scanned as TIFF files - quite large ones. Email me if you’d like a copy.
Pete Thornton said:Quote:There was. Someone found a use for it, so the slag pile/mound behind the south leg of the wye was picked up and dumped in trucks and hauled away a few years ago. There was a loading dock underneath tht no-one knew about!
is a lot of slag immediately south of Orbisonia,I think the comments are right - iron ore was hauled to the furnaces, which were along the beginning of the Shady Gap branch, if my memory is correct. I assume iron was hauled out by rail, as there wasn’t much alternative!
Hi Pete, I am aware of the coal slag pile that was removed exposing the trestle or loading dock. That was coal slag, and I think with some coal was extracted from it with more modern technology. That is a guess, it could also have been used for fill. The area I’m speaking of is closer to the east and the Black Log Narrows. If you look at Google Earth of Orbisonia, and follow the traction line out to where its eastern terminus is stopped by Highway 522. You can see the slag pile I’m speaking of showing through the trees. It is highly visible sitting between Cummings Road and Highway 522 and you can see it as you come in to Orbisonia from the south if you look up the creek bed of Blacklog Creek. Most of it is grown over with trees and under brush, but it is the topography of the area.
Pete Thornton said:TIFFs are notoriously large. You might open your TIFF in Paint or MS Photo Editor (two of many possibilities) and re-save it as a gif. That'll reduce the file size enormously. If while you're at it you can reduce the drawing to a monochrome b/w, of course, that'll reduce it even further....
... I have them scanned as TIFF files - quite large ones. Email me if you'd like a copy.
Quote:. . but accurate. I can certainly process them into something compressed, like a gif or a jpg, but this is a scale drawing so what would you prefer ?
TIFFs are notoriously large
They are already b&w and all three parts are less than 1MB each.
Thanks Pete… speaking for myself, I’d prefer a gif.
Wow Pete really looks great, I love all the detail
Dennis
John Le Forestier said:I'd be happy to save them as GIF files if you want - all you have to do is ask.
Thanks Pete... speaking for myself, I'd prefer a gif.