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New Bachmann 2-4-2T

General Discussion
#14
C. Nelson said:
See this:

http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,14716.0.html

Quote:
. . . Dear Mr. May, I'm told they are 1:20.3, but I've never had plans with which to check. Have fun! the Bach-man . . . Dear All, According to the plans on the L&B site, it's 1:22.5. Have fun! the Bach-man . . .
Solve this cunnundrum: put two labels on the wall, one saying 1/20.3 the other 1/22.5, closs your eyes and throw a dart, which ever one is closest wins!
#15

Or just average it out and call it 1:21.4 :slight_smile:

#16

So we know this is just a re-do, like the announced Climax & Mongrel. and we all think the drives will be updated, but I’ve seen or heard no proof of that…has anyone?

cale

edit: missed point and removed for clarification.

#17

You’d have to go back and check the Bachmann board, but I believe either Mr. B or Mr. L confirmed an updated drive on the 2-4-2.

Later,

K

#18

Thanks Kevin, I poked around there a but this am, but to no avail-kids got up early :slight_smile: had to take a break!

cale

#19

got it!

Quote:
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Re: About the 2-4-2
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2010, 10:20:28 PM »
Dear Alex,
In what way?
It has very nice detail in either version, and a new drive.
Have fun!
the Bach-man
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http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/board/index.php/topic,13899.0.html

edit for added emphasis in quote

#20

Interesting, and glad to see it is 1:22.5, closer match to the existing Euro model market. It was not clear in the NMRA convention catalog as to what scale outside of the typical “Lahr-dge”.

I see this model selling like hotcakes.

#21

Not in 1:22.5 it won’t, unless it can be regauged down to 32 mm. Even then the scale dudes will shun it.

#22
TonyWalsham said:
Not in 1:22.5 it won't, unless it can be regauged down to 32 mm. Even then the scale dudes will shun it.
What's a scale dude?
#23
David Russell said:
TonyWalsham said:
Not in 1:22.5 it won't, unless it can be regauged down to 32 mm. Even then the scale dudes will shun it.
What's a scale dude?
AquaMan
#24
TonyWalsham said:
Not in 1:22.5 it won't, unless it can be regauged down to 32 mm. Even then the scale dudes will shun it.
I don't know about that. It's got great lines, and seemed to me to be fairly popular when first introduced despite the featherweight drive train. The non-scale-minded folks will probably be quite receptive to it. Even the scale folks may in all likelihood be drawn to it for the same reason. It's a small loco when measured in 1:20.3, but small locos were common on narrow gauge lines. I can easily see this one being "upsized" to 1:20 with perhaps a larger stack and maybe a slightly taller cab, though I'd have to see how it scales out to make that call for myself. The 4-6-0 scales out rather well in 1:20 with similar changes; it's a large locomotive in 1:22.5, but a solid medium-sized loco in 1:20.3 even without significant cosmetic changes.

Later,

K

#25

I’m pretty happy with mine…haven’t run it in awhile since it isn’t converted to Batteries and R/C yet, but it was a strong runner on track power…

(http://rgsgardenrailroad.com/train06.jpg)

#26

Aren’t the old 2-4-2s nothing more than 0-4-0’s with pilot and trailing axles? If so, then my guess is that this offerring will be the current Porter with the extra wheels. As seen in the photos I posted the only difference in the old and new 0-4-0 versions is everything above the frame. Wheels, rods, cylinders and frame are the same.

#27

The old Spectrum 2-4-2T LYN locos had a motor block that bore more of a resemblance to the old trams than anything else. They performed about as well. A racehorse to put it mildly.

There have been three versions of the 0-4-0T’s.
The first version had a plastic idler gear that chopped out quite regularly.
The second version had a three point suspension and ran particularly well. They had the Annie type drive.
The third version was the saddle tank and did away with the floating front axle and fixed it so the chuff timer had something stable to work with.
They ran OK but not as well as the 2nd version.
I believe the latest side tank version is still the same.

#28

Thanks for the info Tony. I haven’t the chance to tear apart the 0-4-0 my friend sent me. All I want from it are the wheels and axles. The rest goes into the scrap box.

#29
TonyWalsham said:
Not in 1:22.5 it won't, unless it can be regauged down to 32 mm. Even then the scale dudes will shun it.
Ah, but beeing UK-esque and frankly being an "export" engine, there are more than a few of us that are happy it fits well with our "German Brand Red Box" stock.
#30
Jon Radder said:
Or just average it out and call it 1:21.4 :)
Works for me!
#31

Actually, from the test shot pix on Facebook, it appears to be a bit bigger and has better proportions than the previous version. The drive looks better also:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=308311&id=182658255760

And does anyone else get the idea that the drive gears might actually be brass, or is it the lighting?

#32

Gears do kind of look like greased brass.

#33

Hard to say, but the new one looks to have slightly bigger dimensions. Certainly the side tanks are a little deeper.

Pity is that it will definitely NOT be re gaugeable down to 32mm for the British 16 mill market.