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The Cumberland Valley RR logo is below
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The Cumberland Valley RR logo is below
Not gonna edit just gonna say …Good Thread Guys! I lied …
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edit to say “Welcome Boomer” is that your birth given name or nickname?
David Russell said:
Not gonna edit just gonna say …Good Thread Guys!
Rooster…you forgot one :lol: Ralph
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David, based on the shot with the trees behind teh train, I’d hazard that’s the AMTK train inbound to Harrisburg from Philly? Pretty cool shot anyway. As for my line, it started life as the Arcade & Attica Railroad, which was the local shortline back in NY. When they purchased a 2-8-0 and a couple old DL&W coaches in 1962, they needed colors, which they adopted from the local school: Arcade Central. They painted the roofs, wheels and lettering black and the body was pumpkin orange. [url=http://http://photos.greatrails.net/show/?order=byposter&page=1&key=jgallaway81]
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However I ended up expanding the idea exponentially and needed a new name. Since I lived in Freedom, NY at the time (less than 1/4mile from the abandoned right-of-way of an A&A predecessor road) I decided to go with “Freedom Central” for a 5mile extension of the A&A. However, at this point, the Freedom Central has taken over the A&A and built a coalition to purchase the former PRR Buffalo Line. We also purchased the EBT when it came up for sale and helped the Altoona Museum rebuild the line from Hollidaysburg up to the Tunnels at Gallitzin, a line now named the “Gallitzin, Allegheny & Portage”, the name of the three tunnels in order. Since we run steam in mainline freight service (circa 2030) we have two current schemes: Steam & Diesel. Steam: silver smokebox, black boiler, cab & tender. The FCR banner along the tender: the FCR’s “New Age” paint scheme:
Diesel: silver body with metallic pearl blue bands top & bottom and metallic candy-apple red trim. "FreedomStripes:
For the back story on why certain subsidiaries are located where they are, I created a narrow gauge empire that spanned the Keystone State from Harrisburg to Pittsburgh and up to Rochester New York. The Scot brothers Oliver & Otis McKennin create an industrial empire in the late 1890’s and buy up several small lines around the state including the East Broad Top; Altoona, Clearfield & Northern and the Allegheny Valley. They also buy up the Bradford, Eldred & Cuba upon its bankruptcy and the Tonawanda Valley & Cuba at the same time. All together along with some new trackage they assemble a narrow gauge system to compete with the PRR: the Appalachia Great Eastern. AGE initially runs the lines as a collection of independent lines, but soon has the cash on hand to buy new power. The AG-2 2-8-0+0-8-2 is designed to be tri-gauge: 36" 42" and 56.5" with only changing out the wheelsets. The engine’s design sets the modern EBT family appearance, though using bright blue for the lettering and trim stripes and dark blue for the cab roof and tender top: (haven’t “painted” the drawing yet though) Unfortunately, the two brothers die by 1900, and a wreck in 1902 severs the line into Rochester, cutting off northern markets and resources, the system collapses under the weight of the historical differences and the parts are back under local ownership by 1906. Since I model modern standard gauge, I don’t have any narrow gauge equipment. But I’m gonna build one NG trainset with a model of the AG-2 2-8-0+0-8-2. Once that’s done, I’ll add it to the Connie thread
Boomer, Nice fleet of custom locos! I particularly like the forney #17! Todd, Good Call on the Cape Cod Central scheme! My own Rockwall Canyon has a few different schemes… here’s the narrow gauge logging scheme!
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And now in color!
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I also still like my 1:29 trains as well! Here’s my first RCRR paint scheme.
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Below is RCRR 1055 painted in a heritage scheme paying tribute to the Portland Terminal RR of Maine. [
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Boomer, your trains look great! Nice color scheme and herald. I’m surprised at how good the Piko 0-6-0 looks – you’ve really done a nice job on it. Here’s the herald I designed for my RR. I also have a monochrome, line art version in white, for use on boxcars and other rolling stock:
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The color scheme for my RR is: Passenger cars: Maroon with silver roof and black trucks. So far I only have one car that been painted, and I’m only halfway finished with it, so no pics yet. Steam locomotives: Black with silver roof and smoke box. White lettering. However, I plan to do one or two that will also have some maroon. Here’s the only steam loco currently in operation on my line, a Bachmann 4-6-0 with BBT drive:
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Diesels: Maroon, with “Rio Grande Gold” accents. Here’s a shot of my kitbashed, narrow gauge RS-3:
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Railcars/buses: Maroon with black trim and silver roof. Here’s a shot of my scratch-built, Model T railbus:
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The Tuscarora Railroad’s paint schemes varied a bit in the early years. Here’s #1, which started out pulling the construction train in 1907, perhaps a bit more “dressed up” than you’d expect on a construction train, but the railroad management wanted to make a good impression.
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Numbers 2 and 3 stuck with a similar theme; plannished iron boiler jacket and stained wood cab, though the green paint went in favor of “basic black.” Number 2 kept some of the ornateness that was on #1
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Number 3 toned down the filigree, and borrowed from the adjoining East Broad Top in terms of just using three initials on the tender.
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Number 4 was added to the roster in 1913, and the TRR paint crews took a different approach to her painting. Being as she was bought secondhand, the crews weren’t in the mood to strip off all the paint that was on the cab in order to stain it to match the other locos. They figured it much simpler just to repaint the loco. So–again–they borrowed from the EBT, which at that time was painting their locos a dark olive green (almost black). The lettering is based on the Pacific Coast Railway in California, with the number on the tender, and the name of the railroad on the cab. Not exactly by coincidence, the EBT had originally named their locomotives, which wore them on their cabs. And the EBT had a locomotive named “Tuscarora.” The shop crews figured it a nice homage to the old practice.
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In 1923, Number 2 rolled off the rails on some soft roadbed, and needed to be shipped back to Baldwin for a rebuild. Mangement at that time decided that “basic black” was to be the order of the day, with fairly simple lettering and striping, borrowing on a style used by the Oahu Railway. Well, the boys in the paint shop weren’t exactly pleased with the “basic black” theme, so as soon as #2 arrived back from Baldwin, they somehow managed to “spill” a bunch of dark green paint onto the boiler jacket. Similar to the olive green paint on #4, this particular shade of green was dark enough to look almost black, and once covered under a layer of grime, nearly impossible to tell it wasn’t.
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It didn’t take too long for management to trip on the green paint buckets in the shop (crews told them it was for the passenger cars, which was peculiar since the TRR didn’t own any passenger cars of their own…) but the paint shop boys worried unnecessarily; management liked the artistic touch, so they kept it. Subsequent locos would get identical paint. The Tuscarora Valley locos which made occasional visits over TRR rails were black with plannished iron jackets, with either silver or gold lettering. They really didn’t have a single “style” at all, it seemed to have been whatever the paint shop supervisor felt like doing that particular day. Here’s #5:
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(Historically, so few photos exist of TVRR locos, that it’s hard to tell for certain what paint schemes the TVRR used, if there was any consistency at all.) By 1908 when the TRR was completed, the EBT had begun to “settle” on the precursor to its now iconic black with orange lettering paint scheme, though as mentioned above, the black was actually a very dark green to start. (Baldwin’s “olive green”) Boiler jackets were all originally plannished iron, which when reflecting the blue sky, added even a bit more color to the appearance:
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As for heralds, early on, the EBT used a round herald which I use as my avatar. It’s unknown how long this was used, or how widespread its use actually was. Few photos exist of equipment with it on it. The TRR’s “official” logo is a variant of that, with the large “T” in the middle, but “R R” on either side of it instead of “E B.” Though since the TRR never owned any rolling stock of its own, this never actually appeared on any of their equipment. They used the EBT’s equipment for the most part, whose lettering schemes are fairly well documented over the years with the caveat that the early years are prone to significant inconsistencies… Later, K
Good thread guys. How I came up with my RR name. (I cut this from my article on my RR) The Kittatinny Mountains, part of the Appalachian Mountains, is Native American for “Endless Mountains”. The Kittatinny Mountains are actually a long ridge extending north into New York and to the south into Pennsylavania. When the ridge crosses into New York it is referred to as the Shawangunk Mountains and to the south in Pennsylvania the ridge is known as the Blue Mountains. In New Jersey the average elevation is 1500ft. The highest point, High point is 1803 ft. Along the Kittatinny Mountains there are a few gaps. The biggest and most popular is the Delaware Water Gap. The second largest is Culvers Gap. These gaps played an important role for the area because they were the easiest ways for man to get into the Kittatinny Mountains, especially via railroad, as the grades were minimal. In the mid 1800s the Kittatinny Mountains had very few industries. Farming was poor due to the rocky terrain and harsh conditions along the ridge tops. Because farming was not successful in the Kittatinny Mountains, the area remained heavily forested. This lead to the charcoal burning and timber industries. The construction of canals and the railroad lead to intensive cutting of the kittatinny Mountains by providing cheap access to markets. (Railroads were never used to gain access into the Kittatinny Mountains. For logging operations, wood was transported via sleds/horses during the winter and floated down the Delaware River). The local railroads were used to transport passengers and dairy. Since the Kittatinny Mountains played an important role in the logging industry, there was a need for sawmills. Throughout the Kittatinny Mountains sawmills sprung up mainly along the area streams like the Flatbrook and Stony Brook. Today the Kittatinny Mountains have recovered from all the deforestation and is now all publicly owned land, (Stokes State Forest, High Point State Park and the Delaware Water Gap National Park) The Kittatinny Mountain Railroad focuses loosly on the logging industry of the area. Sussex Railroad The Kittatinny Mountain Railroad is mainly a logging/mining railroad with limited freight and passenger service. I was looking to model a local railroad but found it would be very time consuming and expensive to build everything that was prototype to the local railroads. After doing research on my local railroads I discovered that there was the Sussex Railroad. The last stop for this railroad ended in the town of Branchville, not far from the Kittatinny Mountains. I also read that there was a proposed extension of the Branchville line that would pass through the Kittatinny Mountains and end at the Delaware River. The line was surveyed but the plans never left paper. The Kittatinny Mountain RR is a an extension of the Branchville line. This allowed me to be more flexible when building my layout. I now was able to create my own structures and use my own engines/rolling stock. To read more about the Sussex Railroad: http://www.newtonnj.net/Pages/railroad.htm My logo is very plain. I figured with a backwoods line I w2anted a simple look with just a logo and no weight limit numbers etc… This is one of the first engines to get the logo put on
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Kitbshed HLW Woody (Kittatinny Mt version of the EBT M2
This is as far as I got, have not made a car or engine yet. KNVE is the first initials of the wife, Me and the Kids
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Ok, I can’t seem to post my jpg.
Sorry
Nico, it’s the spaces in the file name. HTML doesn’t like them. When you post photos to the Freightshed, make sure the file names don’t have spaces in them.
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If you see an image, it’s because I replaced the spaces with %20 , which seems to be how HTML “fixes” spaces in file names. Later, K
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Woah!!! Shawn! Forgetmenots! I approve! Great thread guys! Some fabulous pix have been posted here.
Thank you Kevin.
The Candlewood Valley Scenic Railway does not have a paint scheme per se, most of our steam locomotives are basic black, diesels are presently various colors although there is some talk in the shops of standardizing the color next time M-11 is in the shop. We do have a standard lettering scheme for locomotives and a herald borrowed from the East Broad Top for our home road rolling stock. Here are a few examples… C.V.S.Ry. Shay #2
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Porter #3
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Shay #5 (mid re-build)
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Locomotive #1 does not exist (yet) and #4 was skipped to save having to re-number the new (to us) Shay. Diesel locomotives begin with M-10…
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And presently ends with M-11…
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Our freight herald recently received an upgrade. Here is the final design spec from 2010…
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And some cars displaying the new herald…
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Because the “Scenic” is a working museum we also have a number of pieces of rolling stock and diesel engines with original paint and numbers.
I don’t have a custom paint scheme on the model trains as I model the D&RGW. But I call the railroad the Snowshoe & San Juan. Here’s the logo:
I don’t have a railroad yet, but I have a name. I am working on the history / back story to go with it. The railroad is the Alabama and Western Florida, a real railroad that ran from the connection with the L&N at Chipley, Florida to Southport, Florida. The real railroad, chartered as the Birminghan, Columbus and St. Andrews, was a standard gauge started in 1905 (or there abouts) and built south from Chipley to Greenhead, a distance of approximately 19 miles. The remaining 19 or so miles of track to Southport was owned by Sale-Davis Co, a logging and lumbering concern, and trackage rights negotiated. The railroad went bust in 1926 and was reborn as the Alabama and Western Florida, and ran until finally closed in 1939 when the assets were sold for scrap.
The basis of my railroad will be - narrow gauge of course. I am planning an interchage on the north in Chipley with the L&N as the real railroad did, but I am going through Southport, crossing a trestle in North Bay, and connecting with the Atlanta and St. Andrews Bay (Bay Line, aka Genesee and Wyoming today). Time frame will be sometime mid to late '30s, which will allow me to run a K27 purchased from a scrap dealer and refit in the Bay Line shops. My line will be a bit more profitable that the real railroad, but just enough to keep good running equipment. Major revenue will be lumber related products (lumber, turpentine, wood finished goods), produce fron the local farms and some ship born freight.
That is as far as I got for now.