LSC Wiki!

[Korm (Korm Kormsen)]

i’ll take your post as trigger for ranting a bit.

@Hines

to provide link to Peter’s original post, to allow anyone to see how his project to evolved in Peter’s own words…

yep. good point.

but:

@Hines

the ability to be edited by anyone, who might have something to add to Peter’s Wiki.

rant on:
knowing, that this is the wiki-philosophy i am not so sure about this idea.
in our hobby there are so many different ways to skin a cat, that after two or three edits the idea of the original poster could be turned into its opposite. or, even worse:
poster: use a pointy knife to skin that cat.
1.editor: use a knife with a rounded point.
poster: use a pointed knife to reach better the skin of the legs.
1.editor: use a knife with rounded point to evade holes in the leather.
2.editor: dont use a knife, use scissors to open the belly, then draw the cat out of this hole, like with rabbits.
and so on…
the most stubborn “wins”.
results: all three feel somewhat pissed off. the original poster will think twice, before he posts another thing.

@Hines

avoid the option to reply to a wiki other than by editing it.

just the opposite.
agree and disagree buttons and the possibility to ask questions(not opinions)

to come back to Peter’s “artikle” (that could have more details) and your desire to edit it:
doubting, that you had just the same problem on the same loco with the same soundboard fixed, but something “similar” - may i suggest, that you write your own wiki-article about that?

our hobby has so many different branches that i think, it might be a good idea, to categorize the wiki.
just from the top of my head: steam, DC, DCC, clockwork (the last could include drawstrings)
Edit: i did forget “battery” - so very sorry…
modelling: locos, rolling stock, buildings(in- & outdoors) landscape, vegetation, track.
electronics: soundcarts etc., lighting buildings & trains, switches,
last not least : info about sellers, repair etc.

aaand another idea: who is to decide, what belongs into the wiki to keep it informative and serious?
how about, if readers of the normal forum can suggest, that this or that thing should be for the wiki and one or two others have to second that suggestion?
the advantage would be, that not only the bold, but the timid with good ideas would be “motivated” to post their ideas/deeds.

[Cliff_Jennings]

@Korm

and so on…

Thanks Korm. To your point:

3. editor: please don’t skin actual cats. This was an early nautical term, referring to removing a “cat-o’-nine-tails” from its bag, preparatory to punishing an errant sailor. There might not have been room to “skin” or swing the “cat” for said punishment.
   

[Korm (Korm Kormsen)]

@Cliff_Jennings

3.editor:

four things come to mind:
1 “Cliff_Jennings” can not be a single person. much modelling, many fields of interest, working(?)
is Cliff Jennings just the call sign of a Borg collective?

2 should i edit the “3.editor” into the post above, to stress the point even more, that editing by others would destroy the texts?

3 the only cats i ever skinned were, what mennonites here call a “shtink-kat” (the black and white striped), mountain lions and a jaguar.

4 luckily i was too young to hire on ships that still had nine-tailed-cats on board.

[PeterT]

@Rooster

Wait, how old do you have to be to live in a condo cause I’m 55 and AARP wants me in bad.

Rooster, you do have a habit of taking a thread in a different direction. You can move to a condo when you can’t maintain/upgrade the Victorian any longer! OK?

In our case, we got flooded in 2003 (I was 55) and the house was a total loss. We moved to a Townhouse/condo, with 4 floors, an elevator, and a garage. No where to put a layout, but I had 3 workbenches!
However, we also bought a condo in Florida on the beach in 2007, and the advantage of the Townhouse was that we could lock up and go, and there was a staff to call if we needed to know why the alarm went off.

[PeterT]

@Korm

in our hobby there are so many different ways to skin a cat, that after two or three edits the idea of the original poster could be turned into its opposite.

No-one has answered my question - what was wrong with the original thread? Is the objective of the wiki to create something that others can (or want to) modify? Why would they? Did I post the wrong kind of article?

On my boat group wiki, we add comments to clarify the wiki entries, but very few people edit the posts. Its main objective is to capture info that was posted on Facebook and would be difficult to find.
I don’t see that as a problem here. I can search LSC for a thread, and if I can’t find it, I google “site:largescalecentral.com Peter Revo mogul” or similar. Google has read all these pages and can find things the site search can’t.

[Korm (Korm Kormsen)]

@PeterT

No-one has answered my question - what was wrong with the original thread?

with the original thread? nothing, if i remember right.

with this “wiki entry” :

I notice the chuff in the video isn’t synchronized. At 50% throttle on the TX, it is perfectly 4 chuffs per revolution of the wheels. Any other speed is a little off.

The motherboard has the functions brought out on solder pads at the side - I used the spkr pads. You will note the first pad is Chuff sw and there is also a Chuff Sensor. (I’ll have to read the manual . . ) Obviously not p-n-p as it does not detect the chuff sensor. But could I wire the Revo chuff to the motherboard, as I did the speaker? I suspect so.

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The Revo card comes with a cable for the external switches, like the chuff sensor. Seems like an easy thing to test.

Edit: Manual says connect your sound board to Chuff Sensor and GND. I think that’s how the Revo works so maybe a test is called for.

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a wiki entry should be a stand-alone affair.

so: what video? what motherboard? what loco?
what is a"20250609_172720_resized-LSC-chuff" ?

is the information complete? “I think that’s how the Revo works so maybe a test is called for.”

maybe it would be a good idea for a “stand-alone” information to start with some basics:
(if not separated in categories - about what is it? )
which level is it? beginner, experienced, three-cross-engineer?
link(s) to further information. (the original thread etc)

@PeterT

Is the objective of the wiki to create something that others can (or want to) modify?

in my opinion : NO
another example: mountain building. in this forum alone i have read about a dozen of different ways to do that.
if we work with editing and consenting, the final result would be:
How to build a mountain.

• best build it behind the foreground buildings and build it upwards. - (the only two features everybody could consent to)
  i, again personally, would prefer not to have one castrated and abused post per category, but a dozen specific explanations, how it was done.
  to come back to cats: edited "how-to"s are ike trying to skin Schrödinger’s cat.
  better, if each and every one describes how he skinned his own cat. (with all gory details…)

@PeterT

Did I post the wrong kind of article?

Yes - because you posted the first article. (it is sooo much easier to criticise the first article, than to write it)

maybe we shouldn’t call it wiki, but “How-to lexicon” or similar?

ps: as we have some specialists in derailing threads (myself included!)
for this new section it might be good, if no comments would be allowed. just question to be answered by the original poster.

pps: i feel like a grave digger or an archeologist in this 18 year od thread.

[PeterT]

@Korm

what is a"20250609_172720_resized-LSC-chuff"

That’s an image in the original that didn’t get carried over to the Wiki.

So why didn’t it copy to the Wiki?

[PeterT]

@Hines

I can only reply to the Peter’s wiki; there is no edit option.

Are you saying the little pencil [=edit] on the bottom is not showing for you?