Of course, there is the option that the real loggers used; to have two bogies attached together with enough chain between them to accommodate whatever size log they needed to shift. It wasn’t considered the safest of options, but it was widely used.
I think Kadee still makes those disconnect cars in HO. Very pretty little cars.
John
I have seen them with a thin pole, but not chain. I have seen logging disconnects, but Milton B Hayes would not allow those on the P&CS.
Oh lookie, I just got an email from Trainworld. They have them cars on sale, for $54.99
Yeah, um no. Maybe I am cheap but to have 5 or 6 of those in a string I think I will just make them or the disconnects.
Wow! I bought all mine for under $20.
Andrew Moore said:
Of course, there is the option that the real loggers used; to have two bogies attached together with enough chain between them to accommodate whatever size log they needed to shift. It wasn’t considered the safest of options, but it was widely used.
A lot of the time the log itself was the attachment between the two dis-connects being chained down to the truck and the chain between the trucks was a “safety” measure. This was a measure used when extra long logs had to be brought in for use as piles, flag poles, or ship masts. When standard length logs were being hauled they would use poles between a set of trucks making up a more or less permanent log car, these poles were often called “rooster poles” can’t wait to see the comments about that one(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-foot-in-mouth.gif)
For large scale dis-connected trucks LGB used to make some really good ones, spot on in 120 scale, purely accidental i’m sure. With a little bashing and weathering they make beautiful models, I was lucky enough to pick up a couple of boxes of them years back. Of course you can scratch them pretty easily but by the time you buy the wheels and other parts sometimes your better off buying the finished product.
Rick
Are you referring to these?
Sean those look great. I knew about disconnects but never gave them much thought. But I can see an advantage here. I could use these on the indoor or the outdoor by switching out the pole.
I got curious and went looking for prototype disconnects. Here is a restored one that is a cool design. http://4wheelrailroader.tripod.com/id11.html The whole truck is an interesting design. would be fun to make.
Hartford used to sell them as a kit, Don’t know if he still does.
Yes Sean, that’s the critters I’m talking about.
I went out and dug some of mine out from the packing boxes and took a coupla pictures.
Don’t know what happened to the color balance because they certainly look different than shown here.(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-undecided.gif)
Logging cars were built by a lot of different manufacturing companies as well as logging rail companies, one of the biggest suppliers was Russel Wheel and Foundry of Detroit, MI. There is a reproduction of one of their catalogs available, I think from Darryl Huffman on ebay, anyway a lot of pictures and tech info on a variety of dis-connects, flats, and skeletons.
Rick
Rick Marty said:
Andrew Moore said:
these poles were often called “rooster poles” can’t wait to see the comments about that one(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-foot-in-mouth.gif)
you said Rooster pole.
Terry Burr said:
Rick Marty said:
Andrew Moore said:
these poles were often called “rooster poles” can’t wait to see the comments about that one(http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-foot-in-mouth.gif)
you said Rooster pole.
Nice catch Terry
Busted !!
LMAO
Rick, the link I posted is of one truck that is the Russell Wheel and Foundry model 55
This is in Snoqualmie, WA not but a couple hours from me. Might have to take a road trip and get some good photos and measurements.
Devon Sinsley said:
Rick, the link I posted is of one truck that is the Russell Wheel and Foundry model 55
This is in Snoqualmie, WA not but a couple hours from me. Might have to take a road trip and get some good photos and measurements.
Yes Devon, I recognized it, that is why I posted the information about the catalog.
Some of my favorites were the Carter Brothers truck “kits” built in Newark, Ca. They would cast all the metal parts and ship them out to logging companies for supply of wood and assembly in the field, this was, of course, in the 1800’s. This “kit” method helped keep the Carter Brothers in business for quite a few years plus making it possible for a lot of gyppo outfits to turn out some logs.
Rick
Wow, I had no idea my little bit would trigger so much good info. Great stuff!
John
Logging disconnects are cool. I have a set of LGB ones and I should use them more often.
Here is a photo I took years ago of a static display at the entrance to Loon mountain in NH. Note the 2 disconnects.
AMS made them. I don’t know if they still do. They are pretty nice and pretty spendy.
My one and only scratch skeleton log car I built years ago. I planned to build a string of them, but it got side-tracked.