Well after assembling the wood frame. . .it needs decking. Not only does it just not look right it wouldn’t at all be functional. So I have to cut and attach a lot of decking.
Devon,
Here’s the scans from White’s “American Freight Car” book. I can do better but the book is big and heavy, so it is tough to fit on my scanner.
[You can see the original by clicking on the bottom black bar, and download them.]
Thanks Peter. That presents a real dilemma. While Dan’s design is closer to the prototype in that they just look like riveted pieces of plate steel, your drawings really make me want to take a crack at it.
I think for this project, Dan’s win. I just like the rugged one off look his trucks provide.
But that won’t stop me from making a set from your drawings. I can find some car to slap them on. They are very interesting trucks for sure.
And no need to rescan anything. Thats a decent enough picture to make a reasonable facsimile. I won’t ever, for my use, need to be exact. I just have no desire to make scale replicas. I just like things that represent and show well. I know that drives some people nuts, but it just isn’t important to me to make exacting scale replicas.
One thing that jumps out is that this uses 33" wheels but has a very short wheelbase. I dont see a number for that but it looks like a very short truck.
I did scroll back and notice that the trucks on the photo of the whole shebang don’t look like these Fox trucks. I’m sure whatever you do it will be great!
I do appreciate the scan. I likely won’t use them on this but I do kinda like the design and may give it a go just to say I did it.
So got the frame and decking done on the flat car. Waiting on resin to fire up the printer for detail parts and finish the trucks.
One thing I can do while I wait on resinis begin winding all the drums. Mike assembled and glued it all up to make sure everything went together smoothly for the production run. While I certainly understand why he did what he did it means winding the drums without being able to spin them. So that is gonna be tedious. I am thinking of using tape or something as a backer to build up the drums and then I will only have to wind on enough for show. I dont ever plan to set this up in its working mode and even if I do I can always fake that by adding on more line to the end.
I also will do some light weathering on it before attaching it to the flat car. So there are a few things to accomplish while I wait for resin.
So more progress on the car. Having some normal printing issues and having to make a third attempt at the bolster spanner thingies. The trucks, wheels, and tank are being painted black. I have a lot of the details on the car. A certain someone, if he is following along, will probably recognize them. I did create a new break wheel. And thanks to John B. I added rail sections to the bottom of the side frames and made some u bolts and brackets to hold them.
I’ll try to get pictures soon.
Nice job on the whole deal, I can’t believe how quickly you got this all put together and printed.
Maybe time to take a mental break and print an already set up thing for some deserving person! LOL
Now back to our regularly scheduled programming of Devoning!!!
To be fair I didn’t print it. Mike printed it. I am tasked with turning it into a car.
I need to get some pictures because progress is being made. wheels, trucks, and tank are painted black and ready for weathering. Car has its first coat of red oxide. I am beginning the prints on the canopy supports.
I’ve realized the same thing with my hoist. I assembled first, then thought “Dang, I have to wrap the cable!”
So, paint the inside of the drum first, spool the cable, THEN assemble, then paint the rest.
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Can you make the spool free rolling ?
Can’t be free rolling because of the fixed drive shaft.
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Like mike said, part of the design is the drive sprocket/gear that is attached to the shaft out to the cylinders. These mesh fit when assembled. So the short answer is no. Now if someone were to really want it free spooling I suppose the drive gear could be cut out and removed. If someone is wanting to rig this and actually have it “used” in various configurations I could see doing it. But since my guess is that most everyone would use it static I personally felt the sacrifice of free spinning drums was worth the detail.
Received the 6 spool yarder/loader engine today Just a quick look over but have to say; Good job Devon and Mike.
I’m going to try and use this as the starting point for my build of the LaMoine Logging Machine that I have wanted to build for years but the thought of scratching all those drums and engines has always held me back.
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Rick, do you have any research pics on that boom and how it affixes to the yarder?
I think Devon needs to design that boom for Mike as well.
Keep us updated as you build it!
John,
I have been collecting information on these machines for years and have a very meager pile of data.
There were only two of these “Logging Machines” built for LaMoine in 1916 by the Seattle Car and Foundry Co. and the machine were gone by the late 1920’s.
I have partial plans that were drawn by Bill Roy back in the early 90’s and these were based on information supplied by someone else so no telling how much was guess work.
To answer your question the boom appears to be a steel girt and riveted lattice assembly with a simple pinned mount to the frame. The boom did not swivel, up and down only.
Progress on the build my be slow, trying to use this kit from Mike presents some challenges to try to come close to the prototype. The proto used an 11 X 14 two drum Half-Breed yarding engine with extended fire box on the boiler. This was built by Washington Iron Works.
The front engine assembly was a 9 X 10 1/4 Duplex Loader also by Washington Iron Works. This had 4 cylinders and 4 drums. There were also 4 hand crank winch drums mounted between the front and rear engines to keep the stabilizing lines tight.
If I can get this sorted out I will probably hit Mike up for some spare parts, cylinders, crank shaft etc. if he is up for that sort of thing.
There now, aren’t you sorry you asked 