Large Scale Central

Interview with Axel Dietz, CEO of Märklin Holding

General Discussion
#21
Jack Barton said:
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
Did you see that big [b]If[/b]?
Dear sir, please explain the difference in your word "if" and my word "speculation".
[b]"If"[/b] is a qualifier, rather than a speculation. Actually I expected you to know that, since English is your mother tongue, isn't it? If you're in doubt you could consult one of the online dictionaries which explain the subtleties in intricate detail.

Apart from that, you are in the process of confirming once again that there is nothing to quibble so you most niggle. That’s OK, it’s entertaining when Jack makes an … of himself! :wink: :slight_smile: :wink:

#22
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
.... check with the usual sources before the goods are handed to "bluebuy" or "lesbottes" ....
Are you sure those weren't Schöntags customers rather than Märklin's?
#23
Jack Barton said:
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
.... check with the usual sources before the goods are handed to "bluebuy" or "lesbottes" ....
Are you sure those weren't Schöntags customers rather than Märklin's?
There ya go again. Now, let's see. Wasn't Schöntag a Lehmann employee? Now how many have you picked on?

You are definitley a piece of…work.

#24
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
[b]"If"[/b] is a qualifier, rather than a speculation. If you're in doubt you could consult one of the online dictionaries which explain the subtleties in intricate detail.

Apart from that, you are in the process of confirming once again that there is nothing to quibble so you most (sic) niggle.


“if”

  1. In case that; granting, allowing, or supposing that; –
    introducing a condition or supposition,

“speculation”

  1. c, Reasoning based on inconclusive evidence; conjecture or supposition.

“niggle”

  1. To be preoccupied with trifles or petty details.
  2. To find fault constantly and trivially;

Now there is a Pot calling a Kettle black

#25
Curmudgeon said:
Now, let's see. Wasn't Schöntag a Lehmann employee?
Earth to Dave ----- Schöntag, the first and only interim owner. Please email your handler before you post.
#26
Jack Barton said:
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
[b]"If"[/b] is a qualifier, rather than a speculation. If you're in doubt you could consult one of the online dictionaries which explain the subtleties in intricate detail.

Apart from that, you are in the process of confirming once again that there is nothing to quibble so you most (sic) niggle.


“if”

  1. In case that; granting, allowing, or supposing that; –
    introducing a condition or supposition,

“speculation”

  1. c, Reasoning based on inconclusive evidence; conjecture or supposition.

“niggle”

  1. To be preoccupied with trifles or petty details.
  2. To find fault constantly and trivially;

Now there is a Pot calling a Kettle black


Jack,

Looks like you need a much better dictionary. :smiley: :open_mouth: :smiley: Just one more confirmation of your usual routine. :lol: :lol:

“So it goes” Kurt Vonnegut

#27

Back to the original message translated by HJ:

Any futher information re:
1 - The agreement referenced in the first paragraph did not say if LGB of America was “owned” now by Marklin – or is it a reasonable interpretation Marklin owns the logo and useage of the logo and trademark, so Marklin “owns” the determination of useage by LGB of America;

2 - I did not read that produced products (in storage outside the factory) were under the ownership of Marklin. Again, is this a presumed conclusion that they do?

Further:
1 – Granted, owning molds does not include those products produced PRIOR to the bankruptcy and in the hands of dealers.

2 – However! IF those products produced PRIOR to the bankruptcy, left the factory and were NOT received by retailers, and paid for by retailers, then does Marklin own those products? Such as can Markllin claim those products in LGB of America (G45?) warehouses as their own?

3 – And…IF there were (?) products sent to retailers, and there was no payment to either LGB of America or LGB of Germany, are those yet uncollected product revenues the property of Marklin?
Could specific retailers, if they did not pay for products, be considered holding “undelivered” products and they are in effect warehousing? Is it a stretch to claim unpaid delivery be a form of storage – that is IF there were no claims made against the retailer for payment? In short, CAN consignment be used as a form of storage at the same time be claimed as outgoing corporate inventory? How in the world can LGB of America and LGB of Germany not be seen as the very same entity?

CONCLUSION:
Is it remotely possible the shipment of products to the USA - San Diego – just prior (per reports on this site) to the declaration of bankruptcy, was a claim “sold” inventory or “consigned” inventory, when Marklin may claim it was really storage and demand ownership???

Secondly, if Marklin perceives unpaid retailer accounts to LGB of America, do they have a right to those unpaid proceeds? And, do they have a right to any consignment products?

Whew! This is a B-I-G puzzle with some very simple all-parties-agreed-to declared pieces.
Answer the above in favor of Marklin, all is over.

What’s the latest take in data???

Wendell

#28

Wendell,

That’s for Märklin to figure out, the things that are positively certain:

a) Märklin got the whole shebang including the stuff in China.

b) There hasn’t been a press release from G45/LGBoA since the bid was awarded to Märklin (that will be four weeks as of tomorrow).

The rest: we wait patiently to see whatelse is in the pipe other than what has been announced so far. Remember Märklin was granted a holdback clause to cover “surprises”. :wink: :slight_smile: :wink:

#29

HJ-

Many thanks!

The whole “shebang” ownership means IF there is interpretative conflict you will likely read about it in the German papers.
What LGB of America is going to contest or yield to is the next message.
Wheeee.

Wendell

#30
Jack Barton said:
Curmudgeon said:
Now, let's see. Wasn't Schöntag a Lehmann employee?
Earth to Dave ----- Schöntag, the first and only interim owner. Please email your handler before you post.
And, on the payroll....hence an employee...... Kinda like the fella you referred to as "Judas", right?
#31
Jack Barton said:
Wow! This pretty much lays to rest the endless wild slanderous speculation that the molds were moved, misappropriated, lost, hidden and or stolen.
Yeah, facts (as opposed to spin) do tend to end speculation. It'll be interesting to see what other facts come to light under the new ownership.
Jack Barton said:
How much other speculation was this wide of the mark?
Time, and facts, will tell.

It’s too bad the interviewer didn’t ask specifically about LGBoA and it’s claim to ownership of the LGB trademark outside Germany. Marklin’s response would likely have ended that avenue of speculation, too.

#32
Ray Dunakin said:
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Jack Barton said:
How much other speculation was this wide of the mark?
Time, and facts, will tell.

It’s too bad the interviewer didn’t ask specifically about LGBoA and it’s claim to ownership of the LGB trademark outside Germany. Marklin’s response would likely have ended that avenue of speculation, too.


Hmmm …??? YES! :wink: :slight_smile:

#33

Anyone need a good laugh? Read page 4 of the “LGB is back” thread on G Scale Mad The site name is a perfect fit!

#34

HJ

There looks to be 111 topics on LGB there and none seem to have a page 4, can you be a bit more specific ??

#35
Victor Smith said:
HJ

There looks to be 111 topics on LGB there and none seem to have a page 4, can you be a bit more specific ??


Sorry Vic,

OK;

GARDEN RAILWAY TOPICS. -> G SCALE NEWS. >LGB is back, Manufacturing has recommenced …

I’m not supposed to read over there, otherwise I’d set the direct link. :wink: :slight_smile: :wink:

#36

Thanks HJ, I thought all Brits were Mad, how else do you explain Rowan Atkinson. Haven’t read that site too much, all Britty stuff ya know.

Maybe if I ever get up the gumption to tackle that Dean Single thats been lurking in the dark recesses of my mind… :wink:

#37
Victor Smith said:
Thanks HJ, I thought all Brits were Mad, how else do you explain Rowan Atkinson. Haven't read that site too much, all Britty stuff ya know.

Maybe if I ever get up the gumption to tackle that Dean Single thats been lurking in the dark recesses of my mind… :wink:


Well, since they invented steam engines there’s a reasonable explanation for the eccentricity, perfect kind of thing for controlling steam. :wink: :lol:

#38
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:
Victor Smith said:
HJ

There looks to be 111 topics on LGB there and none seem to have a page 4, can you be a bit more specific ??


Sorry Vic,

OK;

GARDEN RAILWAY TOPICS. -> G SCALE NEWS. >LGB is back, Manufacturing has recommenced …

I’m not supposed to read over there, otherwise I’d set the direct link. :wink: :slight_smile: :wink:


I can add the direct link. http://www.gscalemad.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=8898

#39

Thanks Tony, :wink: :slight_smile:

The moderators really know how to put a smile on faces … or in my case a Cheshire Cat grin since I’m not visibly there. :slight_smile: :wink: :slight_smile:

#40

Um, I think you guys need to take a look at yourselves…

Goodbye.