Large Scale Central

Hecla Mine, Burke Idaho

What is the siding on the building? I know you e got some .090" styrene that would cut up really nice for buildings… But then you’ve got to figure out a siding.

Maybe we should have an informal contest to see if I can build my feed mill in the same amount of time. It’s only 6’x7’ and a bunch of crimped cans all over! Actually I have to start cutting the building plastic again as I’ve discovered that the .060" stock wasn’t quite strong enough for some of the substructures but .125 was.

Craig, the “siding” is not a siding at all. It is half of the Wye track to no where that I use to turn trains at the yard. It heads across my bridge to a what will be the home of the ice house which will be a major construction project of its own as it will be a big piece of area that is built up with cribbing and has a double track passing under it. That is a future project that will very loosely model the mine area at Black Bear.

Black Bear is an area west of Burke. While it was a mine I am going to build it up as a home for the ice house. My Howe truss hinged walk through bridge at the tail of my Wye leads to this dead end which has two tracks passing under it. On my physical railroad it is a narrow area that was necessary to have enough room on my wye to trun locomotives. When I built the Ice house for the “chimney” MIK this was the intended home. Since it is so narrow I need to build it vertically. The best way to do this is the way the real world did it and that is with a timber cribbing wall.

This is something else I want to acomplish before Sept and it will be real easy as i am going to rip PVC boards for the cribbing and Lincoln Log it together. It will be just a rectangluar platform that forms a tunnel for the two tracks below and a flat for the track and Ice House above.

Dan normally I shy away from deadlines and pressure. But I give permission for this one. I want to make some major improvements on the RR for September to “wow” the club so its not the same blank canvas they have seen the last couple years.

Rooster,

I can imagine a streamlined silver wood fired mogul heading into Burke. . .that derails and crashes into the unsuspecting town.

I meant the siding on the building aka board and batten, cedar shingles, etc. Not the railroad track but I can see how you can got confused.

I haven’t gotten that far. Can’t really tell what the prototype buildings are and not really sure I care. Two thoughts come to mind, horizontal lap or just horizontal tongue and groove. I am guessing the prototype is the later. I can’t see any telltale signs of battens or overlapping lap siding.

Edit to say:
I went back and brought up a larger photo of the mine. There is a mixture of siding, not surprisingly. There is definitely board and batten and there is definitely horizontal tongue and groove. I can’t see any lap siding. So I likely will pattern that and do the buildings as best as I can see them in the picture to match the ones on the layout.


looks to me like lap siding on the building on the left.


the shadow lines to me suggest lap siding, break out the table saw and the dado blades!

Here is a picture of the buildings with labels from the prototype and which ones I want to recreate.


I got the labels from the Sanborn Fire map. In between the hoist house and the carpentry shop there is a building that the Sandborn map just simply labels “Bl. Sm.” In this picture it is a decent size building. In a not much later picture that building is twice that size and the carpentry shop is gone. Does anyone know what that building would be?

Pete there was lap siding used on buildings in the area for sure. In modeling other buildings I certainly will use lap siding. But on the main mine buildings I don’t see any.

I think it might be the carpentry shop, and what you think is the carpenrty is the hose house. The labe is just not placed right. Carpentry shop would be bigger( to my mind) than the small building facing us

I’ll let you be the judge. I wouldn’t rule what you are saying out, but I don’t think so.

For sure the little building is the hose house. Not a house where they made hose but where fire hoses are stored. You see little outhouse looking things all over and that is what those are is the fire hose house.

guess you will just have to label it the BI.Sm building and let everyone figure it out on their own. I see in the map that the labels are correct, whats funny is the map even used BI.Sm, like they were flummoxed on what it was and labeling off the pictures you have.

That map is where I got my labeling. I am sure to the map maker and the folks doing the fire insurance rating knew what it meant. But it has me wondering. And the fact that in very short order that building becomes twice that size.

It has to be a pretty prominent part of the operations.

Ah HA!

Bl Sm is Blacksmith

Probably the last 4 letters most would use to abbreviate that.

I think Bob nailed it. And that would make sense that the carpentry shop was just absorbed by the expansion of the Black Smith shop

I am convinced now that it is the blacksmith, I went and looked at a later set of Sandborn maps that show the expansion of that building. And it still says Bl Sm but the machine shop has been moved into that new larger building and it absorbed the carpentry shop. So it stands to reason that all the fabrication was moved to that one building.

notice that the timber forming also got moved there.

One of the challenges going into this project will be the ore bins. It likely will be the first part I build because I think everything else will end up playing off of it. If you notice in my mock up the ore bin will be three separate bins, set at angles to one another and if you also notice it is hanging “off” the bench. 14" below is a set of mainline tracks and a passing siding on a curve. There is enough space between them to put in a row of posts to hold the bin. The track closest to the bench above will need to run under the bin. So I think where the prototype was built like this model

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Mine will have to be reversed so that it dumps under itself onto the track that runs under the bin and the mainline will have to be on the uncovered outside. Not very prototypical but I think it would be more odd to have the main line run under the bin.