Got 5 roundy rounds and have no problem telling someone to piss off if they say it’s not prototypical
Mark Dash said:Mark,
Got 5 roundy rounds and have no problem telling someone to piss off if they say it's not prototypical
You didn’t disappoint! 
If you would have a PtP you would have to get at least to some point, eh?!?
HJ
Even a circle has an infinite number of points !
Ralph
Hj - PISS OFF
Ralph Berg said:Ralph ;)
HJ Even a circle has an infinite number of points ! Ralph
You and I know that but it probably escaped Mark, or perhaps his five roundy-rounds are a start on the infinity project. :lol:
Having a bad day, Mark? Or did you just run out of ideas?
Ralph Berg said:I just asked him how many real railroads have a main line of less than one half mile...............Ralph , that is REALLY FUNNY ! Thanks for my giant chuckle today !Bob McCown said:This is especially true with younger children. As long as the train moves, it has their attention. I had to listen to one gentleman at Spencer Rail Days go on and on about if you did not have a PTP layout it was not prototype and you were just playing with toys. He was modeling in O scale and his main line was around 60 feet. I didn't bother arguing with him. I just asked him how many real railroads have a main line of less than one half mile. Ralph
One of the things that I learned early on is that non-RR visitors want to see a train go around and around, not point to point. If you run a train PTP, you get "is that all it does?". I like to set a train on roundy round for when Im gardening, too. Its nice to have company!
DRy
If you take the troble to start by designing a PTP layout, then you can always build in a continuous run. But it is harder to end up with a PTP if you start with a loop.
A great friend who helped start the IPP&W always stated, that “If you build a loop first, you will probably never operate”…he was so correct. When we rebuilt back in the 80’s, we went PTP and built in a continuous run. It is used very seldom. The guys all have the desire to operate, over running in circles…they have the option…
We do enjoy the opportunity to have a continuously running train for visitors; in fact I just ran one on Sunday evening. But the most enjoyment seems to come for our group when they operate the railroad on a Saturday morning, with train orders, a dispatcher and switch lists.
I’m not pushing this…just reporting our experiences here on an ongoing basis.
Come out and visit, to see what I mean…
For the average Garden Railroader with limited resources, a small back yard, and a wife or partner that has control. The best you can do is an oval of track with a few sidings. Ric can show you that you can even have an operation on that if you care to. And…you can have just as much enjoyment.
You learn to enjoy what you are fortunate enough to have…Have fun .
Dennis Paulson said:
In Tenn there at Dollywood big amusement area , there is a 2-8-2 NG , from Alaska , hauling a lot of passengers , in a big circle also .watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCxmluJUgAs
Dennis,
that Loco is a ‘sister’ of the Yukon Queen #190 at Tweetsie!
cale
We roundy round too! My kids like it, me too!..maybe a 7/8’s opp line is needed?
“You learn to enjoy what you are fortunate enough to have…Have fun .” - Fr.Fred
Now that’s a quote.
…if you like it, Ric…you can use it with my complements…no charge…!!!
We have two of our grand daughters visiting from TX. This afternoon we played with the train a bit. First they took turns running the train, and we experimented to see how slow it could go and still make it up the grades. I was pleased to see that they liked the slow running – most kids seem to prefer high speed.
The girls were thrilled to do some very simple operations, stopping the train at sidings to pick up a couple of extra cars that had been previously placed there. Due to the limited functionality of my current power/control system, one girl would run the train while the other called out when to stop and start it. I supervised, and assisted with the couplers. We all had fun.
Later in the evening after they’d left for the day, I let the train run “round and round” for a while. To me there’s something very peaceful and relaxing about watching a train sinuously snake through the scenery.
Those were a couple of the highlights of my day today.
Sounds like you had a great day, Ray.
Ralph
Our son Steven arrived from Texas a few days ago, along with his youngest, four-year-old Samuel. (The girls flew out here a couple weeks ago.) When Sammy saw the railroad for the first time, his eyes just about popped out of his head! He had great fun running back and forth, following the train around.
Brother Ray, when I look at your RR my eyes nearly pop outta my head!
cale
Ray,
Some adults think the trains are “nice”. Some adults wonder why we waste our time and money.
But children always seem to like the trains.
Ralph
Ray Dunakin said:Ray,
Our son Steven arrived from Texas a few days ago, along with his youngest, four-year-old Samuel. (The girls flew out here a couple weeks ago.) When Sammy saw the railroad for the first time, his eyes just about popped out of his head! He had great fun running back and forth, following the train around.
Humour on:
You need to send some pictures to “Uncle Lewis” and mention to him that the WOW factor is certainly there, but it’s in the rocks, the concept, the execution etc. etc. even a four year old could see that!
I should hope that “Uncle Lewis” would be impressed.
Humour off.
After Cale’s comment I had to have another look, hadn’t for some time. Well, amongst all “that other stuff” 
I really like your well-hidden el connections. I will shamelessly copy them and mention you as the inspiration! Super stuff!
Hans-Joerg Mueller said:Thanks Hans! I have some other hidden junctions in the works, and plan to write an article about them for GR one of these days.
After Cale's comment I had to have another look, hadn't for some time. Well, amongst all "that other stuff" :) I really like your well-hidden el connections. I will shamelessly copy them and mention you as the inspiration! Super stuff!
I mailed off my first GR submission earlier this week, about making stone walls and bridges.
Ray,
Is something wrong with your web-site or am I looking in the wrong place?
When I click on new railroad photo’s all I get is your 3d station rendition. BTW, it’s beautiful.
Ralph
Ralph Berg said:Thanks. I don't know, the link works fine in my browser. Here's a direct link to the photos page:
Ray, Is something wrong with your web-site or am I looking in the wrong place? When I click on new railroad photo's all I get is your 3d station rendition. BTW, it's beautiful.