Hi Pete
Nice build, car looks great. Thanks for sharing
Chuck
Nice!
I love the cream cheese jig!
Nice job, as usual.
Very nice as usual. The trick of 50% gray is something I need to remember.
I simulate that 50% gray effect by standing well back at the extreme range of a rattle can and using Krylon’s Camaflage medium gray, and then just holding my breath and firing for effect. The trick is to determine what is the maximum range for that can, as it seems to be different for each rattle can.
Notice, this is maximum range, not maximum EFFECTIVE range. There is a difference. You only want a tiny bit of the gray to hit the target.
Nicely done Pete. The detailed build pics are a lot of help.
Beautiful car Pete. I love your paint finish too.
OK Pete,
Good suggestion to move here. For those wondering why an old thread is being brought back to life is that Pete is going to guide me through turning the Accucraft coach into a Brill 14 window coach which looks very similar to the one built here.
Thanks Pete (and Kevin) for offering suggestions on how to get this done.
My first concern is I am not going to buy two coaches to make one. That would be way out of my budget. You used donor parts from other cars but I would assume (and I think you suggested) that the new sides could be cut for me with patterns already available or could be drawn? How thick are the car sides? I am seriously considering a Silhouette Cameo which will cut steyrene. Either way cutting them myself or having them cut seems like a better alternative than buying 4 cars to make two. After purchasing two coaches it seems having the sides cut would be my next biggest challenge. The roof I think could be done the way you did the 1/2 gap left over when you added the section. Maybe in a couple sections so as to get the clerestory windows right? Everything else seems fairly straight forward.
OK. On to the Brill 14-window coach for Devon.
Devon Sinsley said:
Pete and Kevin,
I appreciate all your help in making this decision. Glad we had the conversation and I didn’t start the Carter build. Though they would be fun to build but I want as close to a Brill coach as I can get and knowing that the Accucraft coach is the best starting point I with round up two of them.
Pete,
Now you have already done the 14 window conversion for the Brill. What is involved in that process. How does one go about getting new sides and is there anything else special I will need to pick up? I will need to get on these if i want to have them done by September which is my goal.
Devon,
Take a look at the rest of the thread. As you can see, (first construction pic) I used all the existing side parts from the coach, and a strip from another coach gave me two more windows each side (easier than cutting out one window and adding one.)
So the first thing is to find you an old Accu coach side with at least 4 windows intact. I may have some in MD (I am in FL today) but I sold all my spare sides to a gent in PA. Geoff may have a spare if I can’t find some bits. Or you could advertise in the ‘Wanted’ section for one side.
If you decide to make the planked version, that’s even easier - no battens needed. The frame is easy, and so is the roof. I have a small table saw (Micromark) that cuts these things square, but a hand saw will work as most of the joints are covered afterwards…
No thanks to your keen eye it will have to be a board and batten side. I am not in to big a rush as it will take me some time to gather up two coaches. I would need a total of 8 extra window. If I am going to do one coach I have to do them both. If someone has an extra side that would be great. If not how hard do you think it would be to build the two window section that is needed?
Devon Sinsley said:
No thanks to your keen eye it will have to be a board and batten side. I am not in to big a rush as it will take me some time to gather up two coaches. I would need a total of 8 extra window. If I am going to do one coach I have to do them both. If someone has an extra side that would be great. If not how hard do you think it would be to build the two window section that is needed?
It’s just a slog with various bits of styrene. A real side will make it much easier - I’ll check with Geoff.
Since I was just barely a lurker when this thread originally appeared I figure I’ll comment now.
Nice work Pete! I’ve always admired your EBT equipment, and it’s doubly nice that you guys do all the head scratching and I can just copy. Now that I have #12 and a few hoppers rolling, I’m definitely wanting some coaches and combines. Should be some time this winter to work on them.
Thanks for stirring the kettle Devon, Looking forward to seeing the work on yours.
Randy,
Mine will be a ways off. I do have an end goal. There is a photo of my prototype (Coeur d’Alene Railway & Navigation Co.) that has its #3 locomotive and tender, two box cars, a converted box car caboose, and two Brill coaches. I want to have them done (at least static) by September 2016 for a static display for the 2016 Northern Pacific Convention. I have the loco and tender very close to done, one box car done, and the caboose started. That leaves one box car and these coaches. Pete’s build here is a very close to what the Brill looks like. So with Pete’s and Kevin’s advice I am looking forward to getting these done.
Don’t forget your Mik’s Challenge Priority! (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)
Then you can start your dallies with these diversions…
Yer bud,
John
John Caughey said:
Don’t forget your Mik’s Challenge Priority! (http://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif)
Then you can start your dallies with these diversions…
Yer bud,
John
Well yes of course there is that. It is a the top priority.
I am just a tad cornfused. Someone with the talents to build a locomotive can surely build a passenger car.
I built a few passengers cars myself, so I know its easier then building a locomotive.
Well first let me say thanks for the compliment. It’s not that I don’t think I can build one; I am pretty sure I could. That is what led me to the Carter Bros. coach in the first place. But while I love scratch building, I am also not opposed to buying kits or even bashing a completed car. In this case the Accucraft J&S coach is a good launching platform from which to build from. It will still require me to apply my skills, but its a good head start.
I have more than enough projects that will be built from the ground up that I hope I can afford to indulge in a few head starts.
And BTW David those are some nice coaches
Thanks Devon. I kit-bash and scratch-build to have what I want. But I am also cheep. I seldom spend more the $30 for kit-bash fodder, and I usually spend less. Locomotive bashes I will spend more obviously. It just sounded like a lot of money to me, to purchase the cars you are looking at so you can bash them, but I do see your point.
Pete,
Great work! I think you really caught the representation of an EBT coach.
Yes, great work Dave. But I agree with Devon - there is so much already done if you use an Accucraft coach - opening doors, windows, framing, seats, etc. It could simplify the job by a factor of 5. I don’t think my #12 took more than a few weeks.
Devon - the instructions for the G.A.L. kits are at the bottom of my EBT page, and the ‘general instruntions’ includes how to dismantle an Accucraft coach: http://www.ebt-in-fn3.info/home/combine16