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Containers lost off MV Arnold Maersk in Pacific Typhoon

That ship is incredible and like Terry sorta said that is ALOT of CRAP comng from overseas.
I count about 600 containers and that is just what can be seen.

It is a shame there wasn’t a few containers full of Aristo stuff that someone forgot about.

How many containers are missing

The ships are huge. You really have to see them close up to appreciate their size.
I saw this ship in Savannah, GA. on the 4th of July.
Ralph
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Ralph,

I’ve never seen a combination auto carrier and container ship. I can tell its an auto carrier cause of the loading ramp on the rear. Interesting picture!

David Russell said:

How many containers are missing

Craig Townsend said:
The ship took a typhoon out in the pacific and lost 18 cans!

Craig,

I believe you opened that door with this from your original post. "Hopefully those missing can’s aren’t XXX manufacturers “next shipment”. The open nerves of some cannot separate a deliberate attempt to make a generic comment with out personalizing it.

As for ‘your favorite mfgr’, I said my piece about that as well.

Bob C.

Craig Townsend said:

Ralph,

I’ve never seen a combination auto carrier and container ship. I can tell its an auto carrier cause of the loading ramp on the rear. Interesting picture!

You can see the top deck is full of cars.
Ralph

Davy Jones’ Locker may now be full of Accucraft Fairymeads or Bachmann Tobys. Arrrrg!

Andrew

Many of these container ships, as many have pointed out, are large and they are getting larger as newer vessels are built. I frequently see the larger ones off the headland on which I live as they head up the English Channel towards UK and Northern European ports such as Rotterdam.

They come quite close to land in order to pick up or put down the Pilots which are a compulsory requirement due to the narrow straight between SE England and northern France known as the Dover Straights. This is the ‘Times Square’ of world shipping. Shipping lanes are compulsory and not only are ships heading east or west through the English Channel there is also cross channel traffic sailing in northerly or southerly direction. Surprisingly, even as this is the busiest shipping place in the world, there are few collisions. Those that take place, are, in the main, due to human error -poor seamanship and ignorance of regulations. Looking at the pic in the thread post I think it quite remarkable that so few containers were lost or damaged given the circumstances the vessel was sailing through. Yes some of these containers do float and are often washed up ashore. When at sea, and often some are submerged just below the waves, they present a serious hazard to other shipping. Some containers often contain a very mixed cargo, that is to say not full of the same products.

I am sure any resident ex sailors can tell you even more and some good ‘horror’ stories as well.

Craig Townsend said:

David Russell said:

How many containers are missing

Craig Townsend said:
The ship took a typhoon out in the pacific and lost 18 cans!

Yes I saw that on the original post however last night I counted 19 but I understand why cause the end rows were only stacked 7 high and not 8 like the middle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38jDQkkaxT8

Ralph, That kind of transit has it own inherent problems

Vic,

You should see the barges that Alaska Marine Line loads in Seattle. You see some interesting stuff tied down on top of the containers.

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That’s pretty wild, Vic.
As is mentioned in the comments, the cars are supposed to be “tied down”.
I’m guessing this ship wasn’t designed to carry automobiles. It’s quite possible it wasn’t designed to carry anything on that deck :wink:
Ralph

I happened to be in Seattle about 20 years ago when I spotted an Alaska barge with those dome liner cars they use on the Alaska railroad. What a sight.

Here is a close up of the top deck. Although we can’t tell if the autos are tied down, I assume they are.
Also, the deck has railings.
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I have also seen the containers coming into Savannah that had just containers on them and stack to the hilt. They are getting ready to deepen the channel for the much larger ships. Later RJD

I have lived in Savannah for the past 34 years and I never get tired of seeing these massive ships and how quiet they are.

Craig Townsend said:

David Russell said:

How many containers are missing

Craig Townsend said:
The ship took a typhoon out in the pacific and lost 18 cans!

I read that the Pacific Ocean is littered with a trail of containers on the seabed. There is speculation that a strange species could hop across from the far east on them!

Much worse is the containers that don’t sink - they sit at the surface as a hazard to shipping. A Hong Kong ferry just hit something that may have been a floating container. I hope I never come across one while I am boating.

Ralph Berg said:

Here is a close up of the top deck. Although we can’t tell if the autos are tied down, I assume they are.
Also, the deck has railings.
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Ralph, you are putting yourself on report as never having been to sea as part of a ship’s crew. Those railings are just window dressing, to try to convince the lubbers that there is some safety involved if they try to lean against them. Truth be told, those railings are most likely rotten with rust and just held together with paint.