This was definately fun and interesting…someone needs to bring up another vintage photo for us to pick apart…
OK so the little roundhouse was rebuilt and still there in 1871…
Bart “Mr. Worldwide” Salmons said:
OK so the little roundhouse was rebuilt and still there in 1871…
Or the 1871 drawing depicts pre-war Atlanta 
Ralph
That was fun!
Thanks for all the analysis.
I’d love to know the search methods used to find the pics and the 1871 drawing.
Don,
Google is your friend.
Thanks Boomer. I really enjoyed it too.
Boomer K. said:
Hi Guys
The state capitol sits in the block south of Hunter Str (now called Martin Luther King Dr) and there fore cannot be the location shown on the 1886 map by the black ring.
Drawing from 1871. You can see Alabama and Hunter Str marked. Clearly that is a roundhouse just north of what would have still been the City Hall building and later the capitol.
It even looks like the ruins.
Boomer
Here’s the full picture clearly showing the big and small roundhouses…
(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/sparkyjoe/_forumfiles/Atlanta-1871.jpg)
Joe Zullo said:
(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/sparkyjoe/_forumfiles/Atlanta-1871.jpg)
The large Roundhouse shows the turntable and tracks. Not so with the small roundhouse.
Though the artist did take the time to draw a locomotive.
Ralph
Good find on the map Boomer. I tend to believe that the issue date of 1871 is more likely that current printing date, and the drawing of the original was probably pre war. This was a common occurrence on re-issue of maps. 6 years post Sherman and all is restored to pristine condition, I think that is most unlikely. Cities had a thing on fudging the local lore and grander to attract new bodies to come live there. The West of the 1870s was notorious for stretching the truth to lure new comers out west. Also known errors from the first printing, were often dot corrected on re-prints, due to the cost of re-engraving the plates.
Also notice that they show a covered station which would be in the background behind the little roundhouse in the 1st posted picture. It’s clearly not there, War damage? And how about the 5 story building shown on the map just behind the covered station. It too war damage?
I read that the large roundhouse, was used to house Sherman’s troops while they were in Atlanta, and that was most likely the reason that it was saved. One could house several thousand troops in a building of that size.
Maybe the map really is 1871 and those buildings are new features not there during the war of norther aggression?
Joe Zullo said:
Maybe the map really is 1871 and those buildings are new features not there during the war of norther aggression?
The Depot depicted is the 1871 depot.
Ralph
The Engine on Track 2 is something new to me. Take a look at the pony truck…NO FLANGE! I have never seen any locomotive with a blind lead truck wheel (supports weight, but does not aid in guiding the locomotive through curves). There are plenty of engines with bald drive wheels, but until now I have never seen one with a bald pony truck wheel. It is possible this engine has a rigid tender/engine frame, a flanged lead drive wheel and bald rear drive wheel. This would also explain the “different” large wheels under the tender. Looks like the tender may have provided the main guidance needed to fight sway as the engine went down the track and the front driver provided the stearing into curves. Very unique indeed!
Ralph Berg said:
Joe Zullo said:
Maybe the map really is 1871 and those buildings are new features not there during the war of norther aggression?
The Depot depicted is the 1871 depot.
Ralph
And it looks amazing like the 1864 Depot
Jim Kottkamp said:
The Engine on Track 2 is something new to me. Take a look at the pony truck…NO FLANGE! I have never seen any locomotive with a blind lead truck wheel (supports weight, but does not aid in guiding the locomotive through curves). There are plenty of engines with bald drive wheels, but until now I have never seen one with a bald pony truck wheel. It is possible this engine has a rigid tender/engine frame, a flanged lead drive wheel and bald rear drive wheel. This would also explain the “different” large wheels under the tender. Looks like the tender may have provided the main guidance needed to fight sway as the engine went down the track and the front driver provided the stearing into curves. Very unique indeed!
We’re talking about the locomotive with the inside bearing trucks off the TT right? If ya blow it up about 200% and zoom in on the truck it has a flange, just mostly hidden by shadows due to the abnormally wide tire…
Ken Brunt said:
Ralph Berg said:
Joe Zullo said:
Maybe the map really is 1871 and those buildings are new features not there during the war of norther aggression?
The Depot depicted is the 1871 depot.
RalphAnd it looks amazing like the 1864 Depot
No sir.
The new depot had the corner towers depicted. The old depot didn’t
Look at the second photo in the link below. This is the depot depicted.
Ralph
http://railga.com/Depots/atlun1871.html
(http://freightsheds.largescalecentral.com/users/sparkyjoe/_forumfiles/Atlanta-1871.jpg)