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    • October 8, 2019 12:52 AM EDT
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      Building 1:20.3 Narrow Gauge CP Huntington Single

      I begin my journey of this CP Huntington build with what little background information I could find.

       

      This “Build a Classic American 4-2-4T Locomotive” Mini Masterclass by David Fletcher was offered back in April of 2005 on MLS. It is inspired from a Danforth Cooke 4-2-4T and is generically based on the 1863 Collis P Huntington preserved at the California State RR Museum in Sacramento.  This class was about Basic Kitbashing.  Unfortunately, the original files and build logs were lost.  Supposedly some 20-25 models were finished.  Some of you (Vic) participated in the build.  Thanks To Dwight Ennis, the Class files were saved and made available.  There is also a post from David Fletcher on 01/26/2013 where he posts pictures of about 13 finished models.

       

      If someone has a CP Huntington build log of the locomotive from this class, I would appreciate being able to look at it.

       

      The class consisted of 3 background chapters and 3 construction chapters including full size part drawings.  The background chapters included a vast amount of history, information and pictures about the Classic Single Locomotive”.   The construction chapters contain detailed step by step instructions with pictures.

       

      I purchased “Prime CPH Kit” from Hartland Locomotive Works which contained an extensive amount of stock Hartland parts.

      I had also purchased

          The Optional parts which included a 4-4-0 Lily Belle Pilot, Ernest Marsh Brass Sand Dome and a Brass 4-4-0 brass Steam Dome.

          Lasercut 2mm and 1mm styrene parts including the pilot, dome parts and a Gothic Cab by Rick Raively

          Handrail Stanchions from Steve Borges

          Decals by Stan Cedarleaf

      I also have some screws in an envelope from a gentleman named Robert Martin that I do not know what they are for.  Possibly to secure the motor mount to the motor?

       

      I still need to buy various sizes of PVC pipe, 0.5mm styrene sheets, plastruct tubes, styrene rods and tubes, brass rods, brass sheets, 0-80 machine screws and some hardwood timber to complete this build.

      Here is a picture of what I have. Now to dig in and organize it.

       

      No worries,

       

      Tommy

      Rio Gracie

       

      This post was edited by Tommy Mejia at October 9, 2019 11:02 AM EDT
    • October 8, 2019 2:06 AM EDT
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      Hey Tommy,

      Welcome back :)! This is going to be a great build and I'm looking forward to seeing it progress.

      I need to call you. I think you tried to call me a few months ago, but I had cell phone issues and never got half my messages or voicemails. I'll give you a call tomorrow after I get back from breakfast with Russ.

      Good to have you back in the fold :).

    • October 8, 2019 8:12 AM EDT
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      Do you have a pic of the model that you're striving to build ?

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    • October 8, 2019 8:53 AM EDT
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      There is a locomotive like this in the California Railroad Museum. Whether it's the original or a copy I can't remember. 

       

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    • October 8, 2019 10:24 AM EDT
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      Tommy, that should be an interesting build, thinking of building one after I complete my mason bogie that I am currently working on. Have a aristo 2-4-2 rogers and the motor block is two separate units and was thinking of what to use them for when I came across a model of the Huntington that Delton made in brass. Looking forward to following your progress, Billstarboard side   

    • October 8, 2019 12:26 PM EDT
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      Hey Tommy that's going to be fun, look forward to seeing your build progress.

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    • October 8, 2019 1:44 PM EDT
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      This is by David Fletcher with kinda of the colors I like.  But it has the wrong cab.

       

      This is by Chris Walas with the Gothic Cab

       

       

      No worries,

       

      Tommy

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      This post was edited by Tommy Mejia at October 8, 2019 1:49 PM EDT
    • October 8, 2019 2:32 PM EDT
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      almost the same colors as the Lionel 0-6-0 gold rush, but being as they pretty much all came out of Phil Jensen's head.

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    • October 8, 2019 3:33 PM EDT
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      I was thinking of bashing one together in HO. So I also will be following this thread, if only for ideas that I can steal and scale down.

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    • October 8, 2019 9:14 PM EDT
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      I began by putting up the full-size drawing of the CP Huntington 4-2-4T for inspiration.

       

      EDIT

      This is the Danforth Cooke Cab version I will be doing rather than the CP Huntington originally shown a couple of sentences down.

       

       

      I then spent hours going through the boxes and envelopes, perusing the Class chapters and trying to identify what I have and what I need to get.  I ordered what I needed and now await delivery.

       

      As for what I had done in 2005: I had cut the 2mm and 1mm pieces by hand and had begun cutting for the boiler.  Not a single piece had been glued. 

       

       

       

       

       

      Tommy

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      This post was edited by Tommy Mejia at October 17, 2019 1:33 PM EDT
    • October 8, 2019 11:34 PM EDT
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      That's such a great project Tommy. I haven't heard of a Hartland "Prime CPH Kit." 

    • October 9, 2019 12:19 PM EDT
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      Cliff Jennings said:

      That's such a great project Tommy. I haven't heard of a Hartland "Prime CPH Kit." 

      That was a bunch of parts that they put in a bag for the Masterclass project, I think at David Fletcher's urging.  I don't recall what is in the bag though!  Maybe Tommy can share the price and contents with us, just out of curiousity.

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    • October 9, 2019 3:28 PM EDT
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      The CP Hunting parts kit (Prime CPH Kit) was created for the CP Huntington Miniclass.  It is a large array of stock Hartland parts put together by Phil Jensen.  Cost from Mid April 2005 through Mid May 2005 was $148.00 US.  After Mid May 2005 the cost was  $185.00 US.

       

      Prime CPH Kit

       

      Bag 1:  Headlight Kit, Headlight Bracket

       

      Bag 2: Smoke Stack, Bell Kit

       

      Bag 3: 4-4-0 Pilot Deck, 4-4-0 Cylinders, 4-4-0 Cylinder Caps - Front, 4-4-0 Cylinder Caps - Rear, 4-4-0 Valve Chest Cover, 4-4-0 Valve Gear Crank, 4-4-0 Cylinder Oilers, Hand Rail ends, Pair Crossheads, Crosshead guide support, Pilot Truck frame, Pilot truck frame drawbar, Axles, Pilot Wheels

       

      Bag 4: Tender truck frame w/ electric pickup, 4-4-0  2” drivers, Main rod modular end, Crankpins - Short, Gear Box Assembly - Large Motor

      Bag 5: Cab kit

       

      Bag 6: Tender Tank kit

       

      Bag 7: #1 Boiler Front Number, Drivewheel electric whisper assembly, whistle, Boiler check valves

       

      No worries,

       

      Tommy

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      This post was edited by Tommy Mejia at October 12, 2019 11:02 AM EDT
    • October 11, 2019 12:35 AM EDT
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      Here is the taller styrene version of the pilot next to the optional Hartland pilot.

       

       

      Tommy

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    • October 12, 2019 1:16 AM EDT
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      Started work on the frame.  Test fitting before I drill and bolt it together.  I also ran the motor to check for binding.

       

       

       

      Tommy

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    • October 13, 2019 12:31 PM EDT
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      I'll be watching this one with interest!

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    • October 13, 2019 1:16 PM EDT
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      What Joe said. Interesting loco!

    • October 13, 2019 2:44 PM EDT
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      Tommy, you said one of the above pictures had the wrong cab, but your drawing shows the same cab.

       

      Are you going to build the cab with the arched windows?

       

      Greg

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    • October 13, 2019 3:24 PM EDT
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      Greg, yes.

      The cab shown above is the later version.  I'm will be building it with the earlier version Gothic cab from the 1860's.

       

       

      Tommy

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      This post was edited by Tommy Mejia at October 13, 2019 4:09 PM EDT
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