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    • February 27, 2019 10:14 PM EST
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      Snow Plow needed

       Well management has finally came to the conclusion that a snow plow is needed for the winter operations of the Shasta Pacific to continue.  The past 3 years have seen record snow fall in the railroads operational area and something has to be done as the merchants and shippers that depend on the rail service are becoming nervous, and we won't even talk about the mail contract.

       

      The company management went south and looked at a used rotary plow, after receiving the price quote and the general manager regaining consciousness the shop foreman assured him that a perfectly usable "Bucker Plow" could be built in the company shops over the Summer and be ready for service next winter.  Not only that but a good Flanger could be put together using one of South Fork's old Log Skeleton cars.   He assured the General Manager that this combination would be more than capable of keeping the company's trains running on schedule, well most of the time anyway.

       

       

      Heavy wet snow and another scale 5 feet fell before nightfall, operations completely shut down. 

       

      I have had these plans for one of the McCloud River Rail Roads "Bucker Plows" laying around for years and sort of at the bottom of the "some day" list.

      I think this plow and a flanger are on the top of the list for this Summer. I think I will build a metal blade  instead of the wood sheathed one in the drawings.

       

      Early posting I guess (for a next Summer project) but it came to the top of the list today when all the snow slid off the covering patio roof and onto the mainline along the fence.

      We ended up with almost 2 feet of snow along this section and had to shovel it off so it had a chance of melting off before June

      As was said in the early days of television "stay tuned"

      Rick

       

    • February 28, 2019 6:02 AM EST
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      Snow sheds...

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    • February 28, 2019 11:11 AM EST
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      Sean McGillicuddy said:

      Snow sheds...

      After this winter my RR would have to build a snow shed over the entire area of operations . I am pretty sure I built a RR. I can't find it.

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    • February 28, 2019 11:12 AM EST
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      Rick,

       

      I like the looks of that plow. Very cool design. Can't wait to see what you make of it.

      This post was edited by Devon Sinsley at February 28, 2019 11:12 AM EST
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    • February 28, 2019 11:27 AM EST
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      Then you'll be able to do this. This was last weekend in Minnesota, few hours from where I live. https://youtu.be/tIxiow8-2FY?t=44

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    • March 1, 2019 9:51 AM EST
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      Where did you find the plans?

    • March 1, 2019 11:12 AM EST
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      That will be one cool little wedgie.

      I think your boss is right to forget the rotary because it takes a certain type of snow for it to function properly whereas a wedge can power through fluffy to wet stuff. 

      You can also use a wedge to push aside leaves and twigs etc..

    • March 1, 2019 11:25 AM EST
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      Image result for first submarine I thought I saw something like that the other day while look @ old submarine pics..

      It looks more likely a Niagara falls barrel ..

      This post was edited by Sean McGillicuddy at March 1, 2019 11:33 AM EST
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    • March 1, 2019 11:35 AM EST
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      Bob Wenger said:

      Where did you find the plans?

       

      The plans were drawn by Bill Roy back in the 70's.  Bill had a model building business called McKenzie Iron and Steel Co. in Eugene, OR. He also published a Magazine called TimberBeast.

      Bill and his model kits and mag were very well known in the logging modelers community.  Unfortunately Bill passed away a few years ago.

       

      Wiseman Models is now producing the McKenzie line of models but I have no idea where a copy of the plan sheets that Bill drew could be found, too bad because he produced a lot of cool drawings of logging equipment.

    • March 1, 2019 11:43 AM EST
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      What about the plans that were in Garden Railroad mag. a while a go..  the late Ted Stinson drew then.

      This post was edited by Sean McGillicuddy at March 1, 2019 12:10 PM EST
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    • March 1, 2019 5:01 PM EST
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      What about a one of a kinder? Quite a story behind it....

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    • March 1, 2019 11:38 PM EST
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      Now that is different, maybe not quite as successful as a traditional rotary or there would be more of them around.  

       

    • March 2, 2019 9:18 AM EST
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      Here's some interesting info on the steam snow plow.

       

      https://vulcanhammer.info/2017/08/11/caldwell-steam-snow-plow/

       

      cyclone2

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    • March 2, 2019 9:38 AM EST
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      Dan DeVoto said:

      Here's some interesting info on the steam snow plow.

       

      https://vulcanhammer.info/2017/08/11/caldwell-steam-snow-plow/

       

      cyclone2

      Yep, that's the story I mentioned.

      Only made one...

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    • October 18, 2019 8:00 PM EDT
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      Well it has been a while since I started this thread but am finally getting a start.

       

      For some reason I have decided to start with the flanger rather than the plow, maybe it just looked easier.  Looked easier at first glance but it is presenting it's own set of problems. 

      The McCloud River RR was standard gauge and of course I build in 1:20, 3 foot narrow gauge.  This created an issue before even starting.  The cabin on the McCloud car is 5 ft 8inches wide, pretty narrow but it allows the blades to cleanly bypass the cabin sides.  Shrinking that down to narrow gauge is going to give a 3'--6" wide cabin, kinda look like one of my building flats.  So some figgeren out was necessary to try to make it look right.

       

      Here is an elevation of the car, note the trucks are 5'--6" CtoC and narrow gauge trucks are 4 foot CtoC on the axles, so this is going to give me a little more room between trucks for the blade assemblys.  I don't intend to make the blades operational  (yea, I know) So don't know how involved I will get with the lifting gear inside the cabin.  Although you will be able to see through the windows so will probably have to do some form of the rigging, maybe just the basic cyclinders and frames.

      Just a background note; this car was shop built by the McCloud RRR and is still with us but in a sad state of disrepair.  It is on display at Railroad Park, Dunsmuir, CA.  Since the original was shop built and put together the way they wanted it, the same things going to happen here.

       

      Well I decided on some measurements and got started. The frame/deck is 4'--4" wide and 26 feet long (for convienence) and the cabin will be 5'--4"  wide.  You can't see it clearly in the view above but the cabin overhangs the frame/deck by 6" on each side.  These changed dimensions are going to really alter the blade layout but one thing at a time.

       

      I ripped down some Cedar and used TiteBond III and brads to assemble the frame and main deck.  The tapered timbers form the coupler pockets for the KD#1's, the tapered timber is very similar to the prototype it just doesn't show in the elevation view above.

       

      I didn't sit down and draw the whole project out ahead of time, just made a few dimensional notes and change ideas so this may take a while.

      More later

      Rick 

    • October 18, 2019 8:36 PM EDT
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      well, I don’t need one of these but this could be fun so following. Go Rick go!

    • October 20, 2019 12:14 PM EDT
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      A little progress.

       

      The heavy side beams are in place on the main deck and the two small "upper" decks are going in. The only reason I can come up with for the "upper" decks is to prevent a trip hazard caused by the tie rods that connect the side beams. There will be more tie rods across the center section after the cabin is installed, they probably weren't considered a trip hazard because the cabin floor is covered with all kinds of machinery for the blade lifts. Besides the cabin is so small even if you did trip there isn't room to fall over.

      I filled the spaces between the upper and lower decks with 2 1/2 lb lead sheet strips adding a good 1/2 lb to the car weight and it is directly over the trucks for maximum effect. 

       

       

       

      The blade assembly that will bolt to the underside of the car. I built it all up on a Styrene sheet for ease of assembly and install. I cut out the blades and used a heat gun and a jar to get the curved shape and they came out perfect. After assembly that "perfect look" bothered me so I went back with the heat gun and wrinkled up the edges so that they will look like they had been used and slightly abused through the years.

       

      The assembly test fitted under the car between the needle beams, hmmmm, gonna be fun threading truss rods through that, luckily there is only two of them to worry with.

      Out to shop to try to get some more done.

      Thanks for taking a look

      Rick

    • October 20, 2019 12:33 PM EDT
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      That is an impressive plow that you seemed to create with no fuss. Nice job!

    • October 20, 2019 1:14 PM EDT
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      Rick Marty said:

       

       The blade assembly that will bolt to the underside of the car. I built it all up on a Styrene sheet for ease of assembly and install. I cut out the blades and used a heat gun and a jar to get the curved shape and they came out perfect. After assembly that "perfect look" bothered me so I went back with the heat gun and wrinkled up the edges so that they will look like they had been used and slightly abused through the years.

      Funny the way modelers get about perfection.

      But then, what IS 'perfect', really?

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