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    • June 26, 2020 6:18 PM EDT
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      Glad to hear the issue dissipated! Best way to resolve it: discover you already did!

    • June 26, 2020 7:06 PM EDT

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      Cliff,

       I personally expect the quoins,corbels (large and small) along with the trefoil brackety done properly along with the lamb tongues and chamfered edges on the posts. The rest of your work shows it done properly so far with some leverage and it's freaking amazing  !

       

      BTW....  Savage Mansion has NO Widows Walk!

       

       

      Gotta throw this in here for the masters.

       

       

       

      Great work !!

      This post was edited by Rooster at June 27, 2020 8:27 PM EDT
    • June 27, 2020 4:49 PM EDT
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      HahaHA! Thanks Rooster, I'll do my best to accommodate, which may be really easy since I don't know what any of those words mean, haha! Or at least, I'll soon forget what I learned when looking up the meaning... Just like the tunnel/switchback thing, my memory isn't my strongest point.    And yeah, no widow's walk, maybe that tradition kinda fades the farther you are from the sea (and especially so in the desert)? 

       

      Today was finishing up details on the mesh, and cleaning up. Here's the center path area.

       

       

      The north end path was all rock, and involves the accommodation of a particularly important "baby tree" (as my wife refers to them). The mortar will blend onto the rock wherever the mesh is.

       

       

      Over a certain area where wiring & plumbing need access, I set the mesh up for a simple pull-off hatch. No framing or hinges, just a piece that will fit in snugly, and hopefully not be grossly noticeable. 

       

       

       

      The PVC pipe pieces are to keep the mortar out of the sockets (for the flat frames). Still doing that; the sawing of the EMT left a significant burr in the ID which requires filing away before the PVC fits. So I'll wrap that tomorrow.

       

       

      Cheers,

      Cliff

       

       

       

    • June 27, 2020 5:03 PM EDT

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      Watching !

       

       

      CLICK ME^^^^

       

      This post was edited by Rooster at June 28, 2020 2:58 PM EDT
    • June 27, 2020 5:17 PM EDT
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      Cliff Jennings said:

       And yeah, no widow's walk, maybe that tradition kinda fades the farther you are from the sea (and especially so in the desert)? 


       

       

       

      You saying years ago they told false tales to me of the 'Ships of the Desert' ?

    • June 27, 2020 5:36 PM EDT

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      Cliff Jennings said:

       

       

      Hey, this is off topic, but speaking about those flats, one of the buildings I'd like to represent is the Savage mansion:

       

       

      ===:>Cliffy

       

       

       

    • June 27, 2020 7:01 PM EDT
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      Rooster said:

      Cliff,

       I personally expect the quoins,corbels (large and small) along with the trefoil brackety done properly along with the lamb tongues and chamfered edges on the posts. The rest of your work shows it done properly so far with some leverage and it's freaking amazing  !

      BTW....  Savage Mansion has NO Widows Walk!

      Gotta throw this in here for the masters.

       

      Great work !!

      Just be careful of taking advice from this guy...

       

      Apparently, somebody at his work got a live picture of him

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       But, I DO agree with him - it IS nice work!

      This post was edited by Bruce Chandler at June 28, 2020 2:59 PM EDT
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    • June 28, 2020 3:02 PM EDT
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      Thanks for all the advice guys, HAHAHAa!

       

    • June 28, 2020 3:39 PM EDT
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      Tidied up more today, and took up the track in the area of the mountain project.

       

       

       

      Ordered 60 bags of 60-lb mortar from Lowes, paying for the delivery. I really hope it gets here by Wednesday afternoon, we'll see.

       

       

       

    • June 28, 2020 5:47 PM EDT
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      Not to ask questions late in the process (as I ask a question late in the process) but is the "back" of the mountain high enough?

       

    • June 29, 2020 11:44 AM EDT
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      Jim Rowson said:

      Not to ask questions late in the process (as I ask a question late in the process) but is the "back" of the mountain high enough?

       

      It isn't high enough to represent Mt Davidson, just its lower slopes in the city street area. Is that what you mean?   

    • June 29, 2020 7:24 PM EDT
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      Just wondering if you might want the mountain to be higher than the flats, and how much higher if so...

    • June 29, 2020 8:16 PM EDT
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      Jim Rowson said:

      Just wondering if you might want the mountain to be higher than the flats, and how much higher if so...

       

      Oh, I get you. That's where the second backdrop layer comes in: to vaguely represent the mountain beyond. If I get to it ever, it's supposed to be a layer of new material over the lower part of the blue stuff, which I hope to enlist the artistic services of my wife or daughters to paint.  

       

       

    • June 29, 2020 8:20 PM EDT
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      Makes sense! Thanks, Cliff

    • July 2, 2020 6:06 PM EDT
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      The good news today was that Lowes delivered the mortar, earlier than expected.

       

       

      The bad news was that my day off just got busy!  Just looking at the pile started making my back hurt, haha! And I'l confess I had a "What the hell was I thinking?" moment. But, using my BIL's John Deere and trailer, it was mainly a loading and restacking job, with the tractor doing the hard work of hauling it down around the house to the back. So three hours later, all 62 bags (1.9 tons, sheesh) of mortar were in position.

       

       

      It seems too much, just by looking at it. But the amount is comparable to what was used on the other mountains, was arrived at using Sakrete's online calculator, and agrees fairly well with Dennis Rayon's rule of thumb he shared with me (3 bags @ 80lb = 12-14 sq ft). 

       

      Tarped it up in case of rain, and called it a day.

       

       

      ===:>Cliffy

    • July 2, 2020 6:26 PM EDT
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      I'd definitely call that a DAY!...........too................

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    • July 2, 2020 6:42 PM EDT
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      Cliff, even with all that calculating, you know it won't be enough

    • July 2, 2020 6:43 PM EDT

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      I ain't helping cut it up when your dead!

    • July 2, 2020 8:32 PM EDT
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      Rick Marty said:

      Cliff, even with all that calculating, you know it won't be enough

      Yep! An 80 pound rule of thumb, with 60 pound bags. Even your grandmother can see through that!

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    • July 3, 2020 10:12 AM EDT
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      Wow Cliff, you are one gutsy type guy tackling this in the heat of summer. But we all know you are a superman type guy. 

      Thanks for sharing

      Dennis

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