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    • December 27, 2019 1:06 PM EST
    • Dave Taylor said:

      Trim to length first, that way you don't mess up the corrugations when cutting.

      I tried that and it made it hard to hold onto. With them long I have a piece to hold and smash and ruin and then when trimmed it came out nice. I will play with it and refine the technique I am sure.

    • December 27, 2019 1:03 PM EST
    • Dave Taylor said:

      Trim to length first, that way you don't mess up the corrugations when cutting.

      Just pop them back into the jig ...

    • December 27, 2019 12:57 PM EST
    • Trim to length first, that way you don't mess up the corrugations when cutting.

    • December 27, 2019 12:33 PM EST
    • So here is what I came up with. Using heavy duty aluminum foil and a jig I made out of some scraps of corrugated styrene sheet I had. Trim the foil to width (3/4") and then just place it on the jig line up the little slider with the grooves in the base and run it back and forth a couple times. Take it off and use the side of the jig to trim to length 3". Makes a 36" by 12' panel.

       

      The side for trimming length has a groove cut in it to guide the knife. Works pretty slick.

    • December 27, 2019 5:12 AM EST
    • A friend made O scale corrugated iron using smoothed out aluminum foil baking/BBQ trays.

      He made a bender and the "iron"by;

      • gluing Bamboo skewers (you could use dowel) onto 2 wooden frames
      • then sandwiched the foil between
      • then just pushed down to create the corrugations to make the "iron".
      This is similar to what I do with my paper crimper for my G scale iron.

      Trying to describe the frames imagine a 6"x 3" rectangular wooden frame which has grooves cut into it that accept the skewers, the skewers are glued into the grooves bit leaving them proud.

      To make the grooves clamp the 2 frames together and drill holes that same diameter as the skewers and you will end up with semi circular grooves that will leave the skewers proud by the radius of the skewer.

      Hopefully I have describe this so that you may understand, its simple, cheap and an easy way to make "corrugated iron". 

      I might even use this method for my indoor HO layout just reducing the size of the skewers by half (HO= Half O)

      Sadly my friend passed away from cancer, but I am using all his HO track work for my indoor layout with his widow's blessing.

    • December 26, 2019 3:01 PM EST
    • I have thought of doing standing seam. I know how to make that just a saw kerf in a board will work. Maybe thats the route I will go. I agree the size is gonna be glaring I think.

       

    • December 26, 2019 1:02 PM EST
    • I went the other direction in the 16' car contest (MIK) I used copper standing seam O scale roofing.

      Seems like one could fold foil over battens to make a scale standing seam roofing. I think the mental image of corrugated roofing is too burned in not to see the over sized bends....

      When I was in On3 I bought the available ...

    • December 26, 2019 12:44 PM EST
    • I know i can buy commercial corrugated roofing materiel in O scale but I am wondering about a DIY version like we do with pop cans and paper crimpers. Would it be glaringly unreasonable to use the same in O scale. It seems smallish for Large scale anyway but is it going to look huge in O. Is there another way?

       

      I thought about making a jig to burnish it into foil. I don't want to re invent the wheel. What are others doing in O.

    • December 27, 2019 5:06 PM EST
    • David Maynard said:

      Why the heck is your finger anywhere near them things when you snap them down?

      No one accused me of being smart. I usually use a pipe. But I have gotten my finger in there. Damn lucky I didn't break it.

    • December 27, 2019 4:46 PM EST
    • Devon Sinsley said:
      David Maynard said:
      Devon Sinsley said:
      David Maynard said:

      You need binders on them chains.

      they will. I found a source for them. The ones I was finding were the ratcheting type but finally found some of the right type so binders will be included.

      They are called snap binders. I have some experience with them.....

      I think I still might have a 1:1 version of them lurking in the recesses of my garage.

      Lol, we just call them chain binders. Them fancy ratcheting type are to high falutin' for my crowd so we just use good old chain binders. I finally gave all min to my dad. I had four or five of them. He has a tractor that he ties down to his car trailer so he has a use for them. They will smash the **** out of a finger.

       

      I was able to get some from Don Mills Models on EBAY I think I bought enough for six cars (12 binders). They are a pretty nice white metal casting from the looks of it.

      Why the heck is your finger anywhere near them things when you snap them down? I used an extender pipe on mine, and my fingers were well away from them when I snapped them down, or unsnapped them.

       

      Pete, I operated company equipment, so I used what the company supplied. Many of the covered wagons had the ratchet type, but I usually didn't hook under a covered wagon.

    • December 27, 2019 12:17 PM EST
    • Pete Lassen said:

      Yeah , David . I have lots of fun with them! Wish I had the $$$ to replace them with ratchets , but I just don’t use them enough to warrant the expense. After you mold some send me some Devon!

      The ones I am getting are in O scale. I doubt I will mold them, for the price and the amount I will need I'll just buy them. I did make some in large scale awhile back. I think I have since lost them. But they were a bit tedious to make but came out nice and were designed more like an 1800's version. And since that's the era I model I will continue to fabricate what I need. So I don't think I will be casting them either. Your batting a thousand. I believe Ozark has some.

    • December 27, 2019 12:13 PM EST
    • David Maynard said:
      Devon Sinsley said:
      David Maynard said:

      You need binders on them chains.

      they will. I found a source for them. The ones I was finding were the ratcheting type but finally found some of the right type so binders will be included.

      They are called snap binders. I have some experience with them.....

      I think I still might have a 1:1 version of them lurking in the recesses of my garage.

      Lol, we just call them chain binders. Them fancy ratcheting type are to high falutin' for my crowd so we just use good old chain binders. I finally gave all min to my dad. I had four or five of them. He has a tractor that he ties down to his car trailer so he has a use for them. They will smash the shit out of a finger.

       

      I was able to get some from Don Mills Models on EBAY I think I bought enough for six cars (12 binders). They are a pretty nice white metal casting from the looks of it.

    • December 27, 2019 12:08 PM EST
    • Dan Hilyer said:

      Devon, could you add a mine to the outdoor and use the hoist on and a trolley line from the mine to the ore chute and use the snow shed on the trolley line. The trolley would use smaller (1:24 or smaller) equipment and be elevated above the current layout. Just brain storming 

      Damn fine idea. The area where my mine is going is a blank slate. Well less than a blank slate. Its a turn out off the mainline. I have not extended any track or even have a real location for it. So Making it in mind with a mining tram is a great idea and then recycle the snow shed on that. Perfect idea.

    • December 27, 2019 9:25 AM EST
    • Yeah , David . I have lots of fun with them! Wish I had the $$$ to replace them with ratchets , but I just don’t use them enough to warrant the expense. After you mold some send me some Devon!

    • December 26, 2019 4:41 PM EST
    • Devon Sinsley said:
      David Maynard said:

      You need binders on them chains.

      they will. I found a source for them. The ones I was finding were the ratcheting type but finally found some of the right type so binders will be included.

      They are called snap binders. I have some experience with them.....

      I think I still might have a 1:1 version of them lurking in the recesses of my garage.

    • December 26, 2019 4:32 PM EST
    • Devon, could you add a mine to the outdoor and use the hoist on and a trolley line from the mine to the ore chute and use the snow shed on the trolley line. The trolley would use smaller (1:24 or smaller) equipment and be elevated above the current layout. Just brain storming 

    • December 26, 2019 12:04 PM EST
    • Pete Lassen said:

      And, as someone who has not a lot of spare time SQUIRREL I just cannot understand why you would think about starting a SQUIRREL entire new endeavor when there is lots SQUIRREL  to do with you outdoor layout, and what happened to the indoor you built the snow shed for? 

      lol,

      First I have jumped off plenty of cliffs because my friends were doing it. What's your point?

       

      And that nice snow shed, nice engine house, nice mine hoist that were all built for the indoor are either going out doors or will be recycled for the indoor. The trees and bushes will be easy to recycle. The mine hoist will fit nicely outside. The snowshed, well I see no real way to use it since it is built on a very sharp corner. The engine house will likely become like a little shop of some sort.

       

      It is kinda sad. I was really enjoying the 1:24 indoor idea but It had a lot of compromise (which was fine) and would limit how much I could do with the space.  Going to On30 (and a small chunk of On18) will give me a lot more of an empire with opportunity to do some operations. I pondered it for awhile but I really think I will be happy going On30.

    • December 26, 2019 11:57 AM EST
    • David Maynard said:

      You need binders on them chains.

      they will. I found a source for them. The ones I was finding were the ratcheting type but finally found some of the right type so binders will be included.

    • December 26, 2019 9:56 AM EST
    • And, as someone who has not a lot of spare time SQUIRREL I just cannot understand why you would think about starting a SQUIRREL entire new endeavor when there is lots SQUIRREL  to do with you outdoor layout, and what happened to the indoor you built the snow shed for?