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    • December 18, 2019 1:35 AM EST
    • After the contest, I'll join you, sort of, with a On3 2 truck shay build. A plastic motorized kit by PSC  and a Backwoods Miniatures Steam Shovel. Also a C and S Coach #62 resin kit by The Cimarron Works...

      I'm thinking about a couple of shelf layouts,I have a  On3 2-8-2, the RGS 455 also by PSC that needs to stretch her legs.

      I also bought  the Fast Track system to make my own switches and hand lay the track ... I was going outside, until I saw what monsoons did to my property and jumped to G.

      When that is done I have a Ruby kit to assemble and steam around the pike ... should be warm again by then. A mountain outside beckons... if I can stay healthy long enough

    • December 16, 2019 4:16 PM EST
    • I thought about doing some of the Pittsburgh railways stuff. But re-gauging whatever scale I choose to 5 foot 2.5 inches would be a hassle.

    • December 16, 2019 11:45 AM EST
    • John Caughey said:

      You know, of course, that No Trains ran on 30" track in the US. 

      As a former On3 modeler I am aghast at the notion!

       

       

      Remember all the arguments for it and apply when all y'all dis my 1:24!

      I never have dismissed your 1:24. I think its the perfect catch all scale. And while I would prefer to be an On3 purist I have no intention of doing so. To much already going on in On30 and when you see as bad as I do what 6 scale inches.

       

    • December 16, 2019 11:41 AM EST
    • Tom Grabenstein said:

      Looking forward to seeing what you build.........On30 is a lot of fun as is 1:20.3 large scale.......heck all the scales are fun.

      Doc Tom

      Thats just it Doc,

       

      I could make an argument for why I should do any number of scales. 7/8ths and my rubber 1:24 really would be acceptable but I want a little more empire. Sn3 Gn15 heck even Nn3. To manyy choices. On30 has stuff available, I can see it, and will give me a little more to work with.

    • December 16, 2019 11:14 AM EST
    • You know, of course, that No Trains ran on 30" track in the US. 

      As a former On3 modeler I am aghast at the notion!

       

       

      Remember all the arguments for it and apply when all y'all dis my 1:24!

    • December 16, 2019 9:40 AM EST
    • I solved my 'small train-poor eyes issue' by going to 1.5" scale 7.5" gauge ride on. Also affectionately called 'hernia gauge'. I still have G to run on our club's modular layout. The ride on sized stuff requires more of a commitment of space, time, and finances, and has involved, at least for me, a pretty steep learning curve. Yet, if I was to build an indoor layout I would probably gravitate toward On30.

    • December 16, 2019 12:28 AM EST
    • I can understand the draw, I did HOn30 and still dabble from time to time, but each time I do I get reminded why I chose G, HO is really small, even O is getting tough, I dabble with N but its strictly RTR, too damn small to bash anything. G is still just about perfect for my fists of ham.

    • December 15, 2019 9:25 PM EST
    • Looking forward to seeing what you build.........On30 is a lot of fun as is 1:20.3 large scale.......heck all the scales are fun.

      Doc Tom

    • December 15, 2019 7:51 PM EST
    • Hello again;

       

      Cliff just reminded me about Gn15.  I have a college buddy who builds Gn15 for the "Fish Head Glue Company."  The premise being that they can make a glue from the parts of the fish that are not canned as a foodstuff.  (Thank God he is not interested in modeling the "aroma" of such industrial processes!)  I'm not trying to throw anyone off their plans.  Just noting it as another indoor possibility for folks interested in larger scales on HO gauge track.

       

      Back in the day there were a lot of industrial and estate railways built to the 15 inch gauge.  Presently there is a small section of this very narrow gauge track still embedded in a piece of sidewalk outside the former General Office Building of the N&W Railway in Roanoke, Virginia.  I was told that it carried small push cars of mail to a larger sorting facility by the tracks.

       

      Have fun, David Meashey

    • December 15, 2019 4:36 PM EST
    • Hi Devon, I think it's great that you'll have an indoor layout! I'd so love to, but the unspoken rule here is that I have to "finish the outdoor layout first." Which will be like 236 years from now. But good on ya Dude! And to me, On30 has always looked like such fun!

       

      But I'll throw out a thought. I'm sure you've thunk it already, but here goes. How about Gn15? It's 1:20 on HO track, and there's tons of examples & resources. Like Gnatterbox and Carl Arendt's work. A big focus with this crowd seems to be one how tiny you can make the layout, and still be viable / fun / realistic. For me, the attraction would be the sharing of figures, vehicles, animals, props, small structures, and props with the outdoor layout. Also, the ability to mix them with a future interchange of narrow & really narrow gauges. But like I said, just a thought.

       

      Have fun planning,

      Cliff

       

       

    • December 15, 2019 2:18 PM EST
    • I am dabbling in late 1800's HO, and yes its darn small for my fat fingers and my eyes.

    • December 15, 2019 12:54 PM EST
    • Devon, smaller 7/8 stuff will run on 3 or 4 foot diameter curves.

      I plan on moving into my basement with the 7/8's next year. 

    • December 15, 2019 11:45 AM EST
    • John 7/8ths would be so much fun. But even bigger yet than the 1:24 rubber scale I was playing with. 

       

      Guys don't worry I'm not leaving G. I will still have G outdoors in its various scales. 

       

      This is strictly for my indoor empire. Smaller scale so I can do more with the space but not so small I can't work with it. HO or even HOn3 would be ideal for what's available but it's just way to small. 

       

      I think this will be a happy medium between size of scale and available space. 

    • December 15, 2019 10:44 AM EST
    • Devon,

      Come look at 7/8's.  It's much bigger and easier to see when you work on it.  

      Except for one club member who has a couple pieces, I'm all alone.

      And this member is starting to produce 7/8's products with a new resin 3D printer. Including a switching loco.

    • December 15, 2019 8:25 AM EST
    • I started with 0n30 about 20 years ago. I was browsing through Nicholas Smith Trains and saw this cute passenger set up.

      Kinda fell in love with it. It went downhill from there. Picked up a freight set and started on a small switching layout.

      Got Bart hooked on it and he told me about an outfit that made paper buildings you can print out yourself.

      And found this as a switch assignment for the freight. I think it came from Kevin Strong.

      It's somethin to putz around with in the winter. Since there's only one freight engine, it's still all track powered. 

    • December 15, 2019 4:40 AM EST
    •  

      John Passaro said:

           I have a friend who has both g-scale and On30, and the On30 guys do some fantastic modelling, don't get me wrong....but....but....however....whenever I'm over at my friend's and see them On30 locomotives and rolling stock, I say "NO WAY!" Why? Because they're too damn small to work on. You go try switching out some couplers on On30 locomotives and rolling stock and then come back and tell me you're going away. Speaking of switches, have you seen the size of those switches? You telling my you're gonna try to fix one of them?

       

         Didn't your momma ever tell you not to jump off a cliff just because your friend does?

       

      I switched from HO to G 10 years ago after finding I had HO trains but G scale eyesight.

      10 years have passed and I am starting a HO layout that I can work on when it is to hot to work on the G layout (it has been 36C or 96.8F here for over two weeks now) so I am saying go for it if it works for you.

      As for fixing switches in my experience in HO I did not have an issue for over 15+years, I never saw an article about fixing brand X switches or crossings in Model Railroader like I have in Garden Railways.

      My now dearly departed neighbour went from G to On30 because of bad knees old age etc and he had a great layout even with failing eyesight.

      I have now solve my eyesight issue by 1) getting glasses and 20 using my magnifying lamp to work under.

      I would post a picture of the plan I am following now but I have so much trouble posting (using MS Edge) I will do it later on when I switch browsers and muck around sizing the pictures etc.

       

       Edit

      Changed browsers and did the sizing thing.

      Pictures of plan I started with

       

      Picture of what I am building.

       

       

      This has been modified and orientated so it fits into a 10"x10" area, allows bit of continuous running and a bit of shunting. 

      I will most likely use DCC for this as I have the controllers and my locos are "DCC ready".

      All the curves are now 22" radius so even my 'Mountain' can run on it.

       

       

       

    • December 14, 2019 11:26 PM EST
    •      I have a friend who has both g-scale and On30, and the On30 guys do some fantastic modelling, don't get me wrong....but....but....however....whenever I'm over at my friend's and see them On30 locomotives and rolling stock, I say "NO WAY!" Why? Because they're too damn small to work on. You go try switching out some couplers on On30 locomotives and rolling stock and then come back and tell me you're going away. Speaking of switches, have you seen the size of those switches? You telling my you're gonna try to fix one of them?

       

         Didn't your momma ever tell you not to jump off a cliff just because your friend does?

       

       

       

    • December 14, 2019 9:59 PM EST
    • One of the biggest reasons to go On30 is because that's what my buddy in the club is running 

    • December 16, 2019 4:23 PM EST
    • Looks like someone has been into the eggnog already.

    • December 15, 2019 9:18 PM EST
    • Santa drops off some goodies at Linville.

      Santee Claus just visited the Gandy Dancers at the On30 Layout Design Element (LDE) in Linville on the East Tennessee and Western North Carolina RR. He left them some fine imported On30 track (Peco from Merry ole England) and the guys were ecstatic.



      There was some Christmas cheer in that bag of his as well.......



      .....and the boys merrily went about laying the track for the entire LDE without a complaint.





      Next up is connecting the dropped wires to the bus wires and getting #11 moving under her own power.

      Thanks for looking.Merry Christmas.

      Doc Tom