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    • June 7, 2019 8:07 AM EDT
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      If the 0-6-6-0 is the LGB 2085, it will run on R1 curves with no issues.  Of course larger curves will be better.  Also note that LGB R2 is not exactly 5 foot.  I have seen mentioned that it was 4 foot 8 inch and also mentioned it was 5 foot 4 inch.

       

      R1 track is almost 4 foot, 1200mm is the real size for center to center and comes out a little less than 4 foot.

    • June 7, 2019 8:07 AM EDT
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      If the 0-6-6-0 is the LGB 2085, it will run on R1 curves with no issues.  Of course larger curves will be better.  Also note that LGB R2 is not exactly 5 foot.  I have seen mentioned that it was 4 foot 8 inch and also mentioned it was 5 foot 4 inch.

       

      R1 track is almost 4 foot, 1200mm is the real size for center to center and comes out a little less than 4 foot.

    • June 7, 2019 11:30 AM EDT
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      Yup, the Mallet is the 2085 and thanks for your assessment Dan.  BTW, I have a European Depressed Center Transformer Flatcar (LGB 4058) that is ~2 feet long with 4, 4 wheel trucks (2 at each end) for 8 axles/16 wheels.  Will that negotiate the smaller radii adequately -  this is not considering side-to-side clearance issues along the track, of course!

       

      Photo link below: 

       

      edit:  hey, cool, I got a thumbnail!!!  Some day I hope to post a full size photo in one of my posts!  As a kid, I liked pictures a lot better than all them words in books (Come to think of it, now as well).

       

       

       

       

       

       

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      This post was edited by Sam Griffith at June 7, 2019 11:39 AM EDT
    • June 7, 2019 12:07 PM EDT
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      GOOD ONE PETE!

       

      Honestly, this can be a tricky issue, since these acronyms are often not straightforward.

       

      I believe the acronym POND stands for

       

      Picis  (latin for fish)
      Observation &
      Nurturing
      Device

       

      This post was edited by Greg Elmassian at June 7, 2019 9:10 PM EDT
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    • June 7, 2019 1:09 PM EDT
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      Greg - yeah, you are spot on with yr rendition of the acronym - particularly "Nurturing"!.  I can't tell you how much pleasure my family derived from hanging out around the last pond we built.  So much going on in there and my boys learned a lot about life through their interactions with it!

    • June 7, 2019 3:18 PM EDT
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      By the way on the LGB track diameters, for years there were wrong measurements on R2 track, EVEN ON LGB LITERATURE.

       

      R2 track is actually 1556mm diameter which is 61.26" which is darn close to 5 foot. 

       

      Dan, please check the LGB site: https://www.lgb.com/fileadmin/media/lgb/produkte/produktinformationen/LGB_Gleissystem-Info.pdf

      On the LGB site, R2 is listed as 1560mm (but actual measurement by many people gives the 1556, since I was interested in the REAL dimensions as I was laying out a REAL layout.)

       

      1560mm is 61.42" still nowhere near the numbers you quoted. I spent several days tracking this down before, and as I said it was wrong even on LGB sites some time ago. It has been mostly corrected.

       

      So whether you accept an actual measurement of 5 foot 1-1/4 inches or current LGB advertised 5 foot 1 and 4 tenths of an inch, it is not 4' 8" nor is it 5' 4"...

       

      Please see this table on my web site: https://elmassian.com/index.php/large-scale-train-main-page/track-aamp-switches/lgb-track-a-switches

       

      Greg

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    • June 7, 2019 4:37 PM EDT
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      I have seen mentioned that it was 4 foot 8 inch and also mentioned it was 5 foot 4 inch.

       

      it was wrong even on LGB sites some time ago.

      Hmm. I guess it was wrong if Dan saw those number listed in the past.

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    • June 10, 2019 3:19 PM EDT
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      Had a nice first Garden Railway Society meeting this past Saturday at Paul (41 yr retired train engineer w' B&O) and his wife Debbie O'Connor's (building kit bashing/scale plant expert) expansive well appointed layout (over 1000'!)!  Learned lots and my wife and I had a nice visit with our gracious hosts.  There were lots of grandkids enjoying the running of trains with lots of "human tunnels" on display.

      So, been doing some research and searching the interweb and was wondering if you all could point me towards a decent resource for learning the methods of rail bending.  I will be using 332 LGB brass rail and our Dayton Society has a Train Li double bender available to members so that is my preferred way for me to do the bending.

      Thanks!

       

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    • June 10, 2019 5:30 PM EDT
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      Honestly, the best way is get the bender and mess around with a couple of sections of track...

      If you are bending Aristo track, take out all but 1 of the screws on each rail (from the underside...

      Just play with it and you will get the hang of it.

       

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    • June 11, 2019 3:35 PM EDT
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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO97JUPF9Vk

       

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    • June 11, 2019 5:00 PM EDT
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      David Maynard said:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO97JUPF9Vk

       

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    • June 11, 2019 7:09 PM EDT
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      Thanks David and Joe.  That was informative.  I hadn’t come across that video.  That looks like a well designed tool.  Definitely improved my confidence in rail bending! 

    • June 11, 2019 10:12 PM EDT
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      After the first time I saw the video, I went and bought one for myself. At the time my railroad was already built, but I saw the future need when replacing track. I even used it to iron out a few rough patches (kinks) on my existing track. Its just so easy to use, unlike the single rail rail-benders.

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    • June 12, 2019 6:59 PM EDT
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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37s2EAvTyS0

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    • June 21, 2019 8:10 PM EDT
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      Here is the latest rendering of my layout with an indicated scale (each square = 1 sqft) and I have approximated my gradients to reach the necessary elevations for overpasses/underpasses.  I will eventually create a cog rail up to the top of the “mountain” in a reversing loop back to the right/top side of the pond.

       

       

       

       

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    • June 21, 2019 8:28 PM EDT
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    • June 24, 2019 1:56 PM EDT
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      Met some fine folks at the Carillon Park this weekend for the All-Things-Train related event, specifically hung out with the Miami Valley Garden Railways Society as their newest member.  The club has a Train-Li double rail bender which will prove to be helpful.  Also ran into some of the garden steam guys from the Cincinnati Garden Railway Club and they are having 4 separate open houses next weekend which I plan to attend.  Am loving getting my feet wet with this wonderful hobby!

       

      Open to any comments you may have on my proposed layout.

       

      Thanks!

    • June 26, 2019 1:41 PM EDT
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      So, planning to order my supplies this weekend to get this project kicked off - just in time for my adult boys to visit from CA and help the old man push around lots of heavy stuff.  My initial purchase will be for the basic elements of my retaining wall which surrounds my elevated layout.  For this I am using 4x4x12" rough cut stone and I have estimated I will need 2.25 tons of it.  Also getting gravel to line the trench for the base of the retaining wall.  We have a nice large stone/building materials (no wood products) distribution store in north Cincy that has a tremendous variety of things to choose from.  i'll post a photo or two of my building blocks shortly.

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      This post was edited by Sam Griffith at June 26, 2019 3:15 PM EDT
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