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Help Removing Shay Water Tank

Anybody have trouble getting the tank off the Shay? I don’t see a way to remove the trucks but don’t see any screws under them either. The water hatch has a screw below but there is something I’m missing.

Neiler

What kind of Shay? Bachmann? 2 or 3 truck?

I had some struggles getting to various things on my 3-truck Bachmann Shay, and you might find this topic (link) about fixing a bad solder joint useful. Maybe.

Good luck! They are very clever about hiding the screws and such.

Jim Rowson said:

What kind of Shay? Bachmann? 2 or 3 truck?

I had some struggles getting to various things on my 3-truck Bachmann Shay, and you might find this topic (link) about fixing a bad solder joint useful. Maybe.

Good luck! They are very clever about hiding the screws and such.

They certainly were clever. I cannot find the last screw! This is the two-truck Shay. Thanks.

perhaps this will help:

https://elmassian.com/index.php/large-scale-train-main-page/motive-power-mods-aamp-tips/bachmann-motive-power/shay

Greg;

This does not seem to address the tank removal. I should have noted that this engine was converted to battery power around 2008/9 and the batteries in the tank do not seem to be taking a charge.

It also has a switch to go from charging to run that appears to be working but also has a double throw, center off, momentary switch that I cannot figure out what it controls. It is located below the lumber load in the tank so, needless to say, the tank must come off.

Thanks for your help!

Neil:

Have you looked at the 6th page of the Bachmann Shay diagram, Tender Assembly? On mine, you remove the ladder (if so equipped) and the cover for the water fill and the screw that is inside. Then, ever so gently, lift up the back while pushing the tank slightly forward towards the cab. Don’t do it too hard as the two plastic tabs on the front of the tank might shear off; it’s the famous “don’t ask how I know”. Mine is an 81196 so I think that makes it a 36 ton Shay and I assume that the removal will be similar for yours.

Also, I found most of what I needed on the Bachmann Shay Tips on George Schreyer’s invaluable site for dealing with the trucks.

Mark - I suspected as much. The rear light bracket is in the way and I couldn’t see that last screw. Hope that’s it!

Tbank you, thank you!

That center off momentary switch is what is used to control the volume on some sound boards.

Thanks everyone! It turned out that the screw had been replaced and stripped. With effort and a modified screwdriver on a grinder, the whole tank came off with little problem. There was a liberal about of hot glue used to hold the NiCad batteries in place but some contact cleaning did the trick and I was up and running.

When I get to a good WiFi connection to Upload to YouTube please check it out and be kind about the missing front coupler (https://www.largescalecentral.com/externals/tinymce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif)!!

Neil

Here are the threads that I used when fitting my Kadee couplers -

I used the aforementioned George Schreyer Shay section titled “Body Mounting Kadee Couplers” for my 1908/1835 center set coupler installation.

There is also this link - http://forums.mylargescale.com/21-rolling-stock/28110-coupler-question.html

This is a valuable link that contains much useful information - http://www.largescalecentral.com/forums/topic/18097/restoring-a-1st-gen-bachman-sha/view/page/1

Hope this works. If not, here is the link: S&NE Shay