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    • February 1, 2018 2:19 AM EST
      • Martinez, California
         
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      Here is the latest. I've started to assemble the various components. I've also started the windows and the doors. I'm not having much luck finding the hardware for the sliding doors, so I'm thinking I might have to design and get something 3D printed quickly. Tomorrow I will start some tests on the exteriors. A well-weathered whitewash is primarily what I'm looking for.

       

       

       

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    • February 1, 2018 10:08 AM EST
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      Nice framing job, Gregory. 

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    • February 1, 2018 9:03 PM EST
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      Gregory, seems to me the way to go is build it to how ever far along or finished state then place it on the layout, set it on firefrom where it actually started then when its to a point you want hit it with a hose. Unless you are building inside than I would do the above on a piece of drywall or sheet metal

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    • February 1, 2018 11:18 PM EST
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      Pete, that's pretty much what I was thinking, too. I would also like to film it at night for maximum "cinematic effect" but that's not absolutely necessary.

       

      My layout is still pretty wide open so I have room to isolate the structure away from everything else and also have a hose handy, just in case. Of course, if I can hurry up and get this next project done, I'll be all set.

       

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    • February 2, 2018 10:07 AM EST
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      Dan Hilyer said:

      Nice framing job, Gregory. 

       

       I agree.  It is almost a shame to cover up all that nice work. 

    • February 2, 2018 12:18 PM EST
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      Todd Haskins said:
      Dan Hilyer said:

      Nice framing job, Gregory. 

       

       I agree.  It is almost a shame to cover up all that nice work. 

      And a bigger shame to reduce it to ashes 

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    • February 3, 2018 1:58 PM EST
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      Regardless of how well I did with the framing, it does seem a shame to totally reduce it to ashes, so I won't. One of my personal heroes was the late Steve Jobs. Jobs had an obsession with the quality of things unseen. That's why the inside or the backside of an Apple computer was a work of art as important to him as the more visible design. Just because it can't be readily seen doesn't mean I don't know it's there, and I try to follow that notion in my modeling.

       

      So what I have decided to do is exactly what Pete already suggested. When it is completed and fully documented, I'm going to attempt a partial burn of the structure. Then, after the Challenge is over, I'm going to go back at some point and do some additional detailing of what's left. I always did want a partially built or partially destroyed building, and since it turns out that the livery stable was already torn down and rebuilt next door by the time of the 1904 fire anyway, I am seizing on the "loose" modeling of the city after all!

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    • February 3, 2018 4:22 PM EST
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      A brave Man!  But it should be an interesting process.  make sure someone else videos the process and shares it with us.  if you are manning the video, you may miss the perfect time extinguish the flames.

    • February 3, 2018 4:37 PM EST
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      A live youtube feed of the burn would be awesome.  Probably a pain in the rear, but cool none the less.  Excited to see how it all turns out.

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    • February 3, 2018 8:32 PM EST
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      I don't know if a live feed is in the cards or not, but I will definitely video it and make it available.

       

      I finally got a chance to start on the exterior siding. I brushed on a basecoat of burnt umber, gray, silver and white. Then, after it was dry, I applied FolkArt Crackling Medium to the siding. After letting it dry for about 30 minutes and while it was still a bit tacky, I brushed on a thinned wash of white. The crackling effect takes effect when the top coat dries. The close-up below gives an idea of where things stood about 15 minutes after application of the white and we'll see it looks like in the morning when it is fully dry.

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

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    • February 3, 2018 10:50 PM EST
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      Awesome looking!...

       

    • February 4, 2018 12:12 AM EST
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      Wow!!  The siding looks ..... well... old.  Nice job.

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    • February 4, 2018 12:55 AM EST

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      Great craftsmanship! I’m enjoying the posts.

    • February 4, 2018 10:23 AM EST
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      Very nice effect with the paint. Does the crackle say it's weather proof?

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      The older I get, the less I know, please don't make me prove it.

       

       

    • February 4, 2018 1:34 PM EST
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      John Caughey said:

      Very nice effect with the paint. Does the crackle say it's weather proof?

      Thanks guys! I don’t think it says anything about outdoor use, but I strongly suspect and am assuming it is not. It will get a healthy dose of Dullcote and a UV sealer.

       

      There are other crackling mediums out there and the guys over at the Westlake Modeling Forum suggest using Ranger (aka Tim Holtz) but it is difficult to find and I couldn’t get it shipped before the Challenge ended. There are also techniques using hair spray and I really want to test them all out, but due to the time constraints here I went for something quick, cheap, and easy.

       

      BTW, it doesn’t look any different this morning than it did when I took the photo yesterday. I still have to make the doors and windows, which is where most crackling takes place, and I want to flake some of the paint off to better show the base coat, so there’s still work to be done. 

       

      Oh yeah, almost forgot. I still have to make the facade. I am making them out of 1/16 inch thick strips of 1/4 inch wide basswood with .030 styrene rods under the lower side of the strips, all of which are glued to a thin sheet of basswood. These photos show the idea but they haven't been glued yet.

       

       

       

      UPDATE: I was finally able to find wood so I am switching out the styrene for 1/32 rods. 

      This post was edited by Gregory Hile at February 4, 2018 5:24 PM EST
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    • February 4, 2018 11:23 PM EST
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      Gregory, I think I found a good way to get rid of the competition here, convince them to burn their project down !! LOL. I don’t think I could set fire to some great workmanship like that, but since you are modeling  burnt place , that does seem the best way. Looking forward to a well built but burned out building!

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    • February 5, 2018 11:04 AM EST
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      Damn nice job on the siding. Just about the time I think I have it figured out you give me another technique. The crackling medium is great. And I bet would chip off nicely to give the peeling paint effect

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    • February 5, 2018 12:21 PM EST
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      Thanks! I did a little chipping on a test piece and, yes, it did work pretty well. I'm going to work on the chipping today or tomorrow. I need to finish the doors and windows first. Also still need to do the front-facing facade and the roofing, including rafters, etc.

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    • February 5, 2018 1:46 PM EST
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      Gregory Hile said:

      Thanks! I did a little chipping on a test piece and, yes, it did work pretty well. I'm going to work on the chipping today or tomorrow. I need to finish the doors and windows first. Also still need to do the front-facing facade and the roofing, including rafters, etc.

      Please post a close up of the chipping. I did the hairspray technique and while it did work better than no hairspray, the texture of wood still holds the top coat well. I like what I got but I think I am liking what you got better.

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    • February 6, 2018 11:31 PM EST
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      Getting closer. I have started on the clapboard siding and have put down the subroof. I have shingles ready to add and once I finish the clapboard I'll be able to paint and weather it. Tonight the base coat will hopefully go on. Then, windows and doors and we're pretty much done.

       

       

       

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