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    • January 21, 2018 11:50 AM EST
      • Holiday Inn Express, School of Train Repair
         
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      Great stuff Greg. I have become a real fan (and appreciative of the effort required) to do stick built scale structures. I will be watching intently.

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      These Bachmann connies are great but you gotta hit'em jusssst rightttt!

       

    • January 21, 2018 12:07 PM EST
      • Vail, Az
         
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      I concur with the Rooster. I found out that paddle wheel style was often home built as all the parts were common and available, vs expensive commercial models....

       

       

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      The older I get, the less I know, please don't make me prove it.

       

       

    • January 21, 2018 3:35 PM EST
      • Martinez, California
         
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      Thanks for all the kind words! I was hoping there might be an aerial photo but, oh yeah, the airplane hadn’t been invented yet ...

      I’ve also been trying to research the skating rink and the opera house to help figure all this out and will report back on what I find. Part of the problem, of course, is the sometimes inaccurate reporting of events. For example, I just read one account that said the opera house burned down in the 1906 SF earthquake but I am pretty certain it was the 1904 fire. Things like that. 

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    • January 26, 2018 3:46 PM EST
      • Martinez, California
         
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      All righty then, I did some further research and things are starting to make sense now. I was able to better date the photos of the livery after I found a similar photo in a book at the county library.

       

      Here is one of the original photos I posted and to the right of that is the 1865 photo:

       

       

       

      The people are different and the tree has a lot more foliage than this photo, but the structure is virtually identical, so they weren't taken at the same time, but most likely rather close in time. I had estimated these photos came from the 1890s, but it turns out the photo in the book was from 1865. This would also explain why the Opera House is not there and why the Sanborn maps show the livery in a slightly different location, as Mr. Bennett rebuilt the livery at some point on the street corner next door.

       

      The upshot of it all is why I say that my layout is "loosely" based on Martinez, California at the turn of the 20th century. Note, however, that the 1881 Sanborn map shows the I.O.O.F. Hall as "under construction," so maybe I wasn't so far off after all.

       

      A report of my progress on the build will come a bit later.

      This post was edited by Gregory Hile at January 26, 2018 3:52 PM EST
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    • January 26, 2018 7:35 PM EST
      • Post Falls, Idaho
         
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      It appears to me that the one on the left is later. The doors look weathered where the ones on the right look more fresh. However that may be lighting. They do look similar. The way the willow is trimmed looks very similar. The way the sign is attached to the tree is identical.  

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    • January 26, 2018 7:48 PM EST
      • Vail, Az
         
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      Seasonal, same year the stains on the front are similar and as Devon pointed out adding leaves is the only difference there. Fashions appear similar, could be a cool day by the bay, every day. No not that cool! Golly

      This post was edited by John Caughey at January 26, 2018 7:48 PM EST
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      The older I get, the less I know, please don't make me prove it.

       

       

    • January 26, 2018 9:27 PM EST
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      That is an interesting building and that water pump windmill is a wonder.  

      I do that that "sign" is a shutter over a window with slates for air circulation. 

      I look forward to seeing this build progress.

       

       

    • January 28, 2018 8:42 PM EST
      • Martinez, California
         
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      I have finally started to make some real progress this weekend. I have almost completed the main level framing. The facade, rafters, and other components are being assembled and will be attached soon. I temporarily clamped some of them together to examine the fit, and so far everything seems to be coming together relatively nice.

       

       

       

       

       

      I need to start on the various doors, windows, and hardware, especially for the sliding doors. Once the framing is completed, I can also start on the exterior, staining, weathering, and detail work.

       

      And the best part? I've only managed to shoot myself with the pin nailer once, and it didn't even draw blood!

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    • January 28, 2018 9:08 PM EST
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      Nice! And that building mat is pretty cool too.

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    • January 28, 2018 9:13 PM EST
      • Martinez, California
         
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      Jon Radder said:

      Nice! And that building mat is pretty cool too.

      Shhh! It's my wife's but I want to keep it!

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    • January 28, 2018 9:16 PM EST
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      Starting to take shape. I like the boad by board construction.  I know it takes longer, but it really gives you the feel of the real thing. I’ve only had one mishap with the pin nailer myself. Yesterday, I shot one and it went through the board and across the room. Must have hit a soft spot in the wood. Fortunately, the only thing it hit was air, well, and the floor of course.  Looking forward to more updates. 

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    • January 29, 2018 9:13 AM EST
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      Starting to look like a building. Will you still have time to get it done, light it on fire, and rebuild it before Feb 13. . .

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    • January 29, 2018 12:36 PM EST
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      Yeah, still trying to work out the logistics for that ...

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    • January 29, 2018 4:06 PM EST
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      Here are a couple shots of the exterior being added to the side. I forgot I had these strips and now have to mill only 64 more of them ...

       

       

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    • January 29, 2018 11:04 PM EST
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      Siding looks good.  Too bad its all got to go up in smoke 

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    • January 30, 2018 1:54 AM EST
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      Well, it doesn't necessarily have to all go up in smoke, but I do want at least some of it to go. My initial thoughts on this project stretch back over the last few months, before I considered doing it for the Mik's, and it was always intended to be a structure that was either under construction or partially destroyed. The challenge for me has largely been how to preserve and maintain it, not only the wooden structure but also the surrounding rubble, debris, and detritus, on an outdoor layout. It was by sheer coincidence that I, independent of each other, came across an article on the 1904 fire and photographs of the livery and then put two and two together. Anyway, I'm still working out the logistics and I'm open to suggestions! In fact, HELP!

      This post was edited by Gregory Hile at January 30, 2018 1:55 AM EST
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    • January 30, 2018 7:33 AM EST
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      The solution seems obvious...ill send you some ashes , you send me the livery stable ... sounds like a win-win to me!

    • January 30, 2018 11:00 AM EST
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      Damn Eric, I was too late. I was thinking the exact same thing.

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    • January 30, 2018 11:04 AM EST
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      Better start making  the pumper so your crew can fight the fire,

       

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    • January 30, 2018 11:33 AM EST
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      Aw shucks, guys. 

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