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    • October 7, 2017 11:46 PM EDT
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      Speaking of NEW product...

        When is LGB going to wise up, and TrainWorld going to press them to start again, producing NORTH AMERICAN PRODUCT

      This constant advertising of repaints, and old European product, at higher than needed prices, is getting mighty-mighty BORING...

         This is not to say that there are not a few North Americans that find the stuff attractive; but there is a whole market out there that would like some  NEW NA stuff...since Bachmann seems to be cutting back, on anything but "Toddler Toys"...it must be the old German attitude, that "We know best what you want"....CRAP...

      This post was edited by Fred Mills, SOG at October 7, 2017 11:49 PM EDT
    • October 8, 2017 9:24 AM EDT
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      I hear you Fred, but would anyone buy LGB North American outline stuff today?  The mainline diesel crowd is pretty entrenched in 1:29 with a few 1:32 purists hanging on. The narrow gauge crowd is similarly invested in 1:20.3.  I don't think that many of these folks would buy steam or diesel in LGB's 1:22ish scale.  I am far from a scale purist - I run 1:24 stock with my 1:20.3 stock calling it older and smaller but that is because I already owned it. When I buy or build it's only 1:20.3. That's my take, anyway.

       

      This post was edited by Jon Radder at October 8, 2017 9:26 AM EDT
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    • October 8, 2017 10:50 AM EDT
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      The show + seeing people is the reason I go to York. I often don’t buy anything but it’s the excuse I need to spend money on a couple nights at a hotel. Along with the fact the hotel is pretty cheap helps too. Moving to a bigger metro area would be an entry in the minus column for me.
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    • October 8, 2017 10:53 AM EDT
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      Fred Mills, SOG said:

      If there is no new product to attract the "Throngs", then maybe it's time to just arrange a "Drag & Brag", and friendly get-together in a smaller town, or location, like Syracuse...add other small town names here... Book a big room at a hotel, where there are rooms at a fair price. Get Ric to bring his portable layout; have a tub for ice; and make sure there is a good, old-fashioned diner nearby.

         ...if someone close by happens to have a railroad, then it might be an excuse to run a train or two....

          No...don't turn it into a high priced "Convention". Just treat it as an annual "Reunion of Friends".

              A meeting of friends doesn't always have to involve buying and selling.  It can just be meeting old friends, and any new ones that happen along, to just have a great social event, with the opportunity to actually meet the people that seem to be the "Bad Actors" on the internet, but in person can become "Best of Friends".

           Large Scale model railroading isn't dying; it's just taking a rest...!!!!

       

       

      That would be worth doing.  Could always do the Best Western or Days Inn in Matamoris PA.  Off I84.  Port Jervis is close by, Metro North runs to Port Jervis. Could run on my layout and maybe a few more.   Good places to eat.  Scranton area would be another good sot.  

    • October 8, 2017 11:09 AM EDT
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      Fred Mills, SOG said:

      If there is no new product to attract the "Throngs", then maybe it's time to just arrange a "Drag & Brag", and friendly get-together in a smaller town, or location, like Syracuse...add other small town names here... Book a big room at a hotel, where there are rooms at a fair price. Get Ric to bring his portable layout; have a tub for ice; and make sure there is a good, old-fashioned diner nearby.

         ...if someone close by happens to have a railroad, then it might be an excuse to run a train or two....

          No...don't turn it into a high priced "Convention". Just treat it as an annual "Reunion of Friends".

              A meeting of friends doesn't always have to involve buying and selling.  It can just be meeting old friends, and any new ones that happen along, to just have a great social event, with the opportunity to actually meet the people that seem to be the "Bad Actors" on the internet, but in person can become "Best of Friends".

           Large Scale model railroading isn't dying; it's just taking a rest...!!!!

      Isn't that already being done at the ECLSTS?  (Drag and Brag on Friday night, in a small town, rooms booked at a fair price)

      York seems like a pretty small town (43K), especially when compared to Syracuse (145K), or Scranton (76K).

      I suspect that the majority of folks that attend the ECLSTS don't give a hoot about operations, and those that do already host operations sessions when the weather is better suited for it.

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    • October 8, 2017 7:34 PM EDT
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      Well, and for me, York has become an even better place to go for the ECLSTS. 2 years ago I was in York for training, since my company is based there. So I didn't pay for the gas to drive to York (from Pittsburgh), nor did I pay for the hotel room. Last year, while I was at the ECLSTS, I stopped by the office, its only just on the other side of that falling down building to the left of the Memorial hall, picked up an expense check, and got my yearly review (and a 3% raise).

       

      If LGB was smart (enough), they would get the rights to the molds and bring back the Amtrak equipment made by LGBoA. LGB did bring back the Mikado (in whatever scale it was), but at a price point that certainly left me out of that game.

       

      Fred, It would be nice if new product would come out every year. Not just repaints and re releases. Be it LGB, Bachmann, USA or whoever. It would also be nice if that product was in one of the popular scales. But we have been asking for (or complaining about) this for so long, I don't think its going to change.

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    • October 9, 2017 9:11 PM EDT
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      I think the new product from LGB is hampered by the layers of management (he who holds the money).

       

      LGB owned by Marklin, Marklin owned by Simba Dickie

       

      I would guess that the top management don't give a hoot about expanding markets, too risky...

       

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    • October 9, 2017 9:17 PM EDT
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      Rooster would like to be called : Simba Dickie in his next life !

    • October 10, 2017 7:42 AM EDT
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      You know, you just can't make this stuff up.  He actually thinks this way.

      This post was edited by Ric Golding at October 10, 2017 7:44 AM EDT
    • October 10, 2017 7:08 PM EDT
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      Greg Elmassian said:

      I think the new product from LGB is hampered by the layers of management (he who holds the money).

       

      LGB owned by Marklin, Marklin owned by Simba Dickie

       

      I would guess that the top management don't give a hoot about expanding markets, too risky...

       

      Greg

      Greg, actually it is risky, if the manufacturer doesn't know what the market wants. And since LGBoA is gone, is there anyone, anyone at LGB, who has a clue what the North American market wants?

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    • October 11, 2017 12:25 PM EDT
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      Hmmmmmmm a way for manufacturers to come up with a product that market actually wants.  Just gonna throw this out there, I know I am thinking too intelligently, maybe they could survey their customer base.  Charlie Ro finally did it and is coming out with new stuff, though really wished he had released the results of that survey.

      This post was edited by Joseph Lupinski at October 11, 2017 12:25 PM EDT
    • October 11, 2017 7:28 PM EDT
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      Joseph, there you go, making sense again. You are going to have to stop doing that.

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    • October 17, 2017 8:55 PM EDT
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      "The show + seeing people is the reason I go to York...."

      Reason I went to the ECLSTS twice !   And extended the visits to the PA/MD region to include various rwy sights. 

       

      But with air travel being a struggle now and tight 'budget',   better to save the sanity/money for regional offerings both  show and product-wise !   

       

      I still tell peoples about how ECLSTS was the LS show experience and still is,   if you want to experience a LSTS !

       

      doug c

       

       

      p.s.  also travel advisory to the U.S.A.  ;)

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