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    • April 19, 2017 6:46 PM EDT
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      What Design was the Lumiere Train?

      Hi,

       

      I'm a 3d modeler and digital media specialist.  I'm trying to create a 3d model of the train filmed in the Lumiere Brothers film "a train arriving at la Ciotat".  Here is a video.  

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abXYd8iSPEk  

      I'm having trouble identifying the train and finding other views for better ideas of how to model it.  For one thing there is this weird overhead cam type structure right behind the chimney on the front, and I'm having trouble seeing the drive pistons.

      Can anyone give me some idea of where to look for additional images for this design? or can someone identify some similar design that might give me more ideas for how the locomotive was constructed.

      Here is an image in case the video does not work.

      train at la Ciotat

       

      Thanks,

      Colin

    • April 20, 2017 10:25 PM EDT
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      Hey that was cool!

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    • April 20, 2017 10:45 PM EDT
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      The models used in the movie 'Hugo' are even cooler

       

       

      This post was edited by Paradise . at April 20, 2017 10:46 PM EDT
    • April 21, 2017 1:39 AM EDT

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      Awesome! I love it when they use real models and practical effects in movies. 

       

       

    • April 21, 2017 10:41 AM EDT
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      To the Original Poster, OP,

      The overhead link, may be as on the Mason Boogies and was related to valve timing. I include this pic  to see it.

      Unlike the above engine with outside cylinders your loco probably had inside cylinders that powered a crankshaft.

       

      Hope this helps,

      John

      This post was edited by John Caughey at April 21, 2017 1:53 PM EDT
    • April 21, 2017 11:39 AM EDT

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      The crashed french engine has an outside frame and outside Stephenson valve gear.

    • April 22, 2017 2:07 PM EDT
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      If I recall from reading an account some years ago, the accident happened at very low speed. Loved the movie.

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      In that awkward stage between preschool and death. 

    • April 22, 2017 10:26 PM EDT
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      I think the 'box' just behind the stack is the steam regulator valve with external steam pipe to the cylinders.
      You can see a solid shaft control going all the way to the cab.
      Later locomotive designs had the regulator within the steam dome and the steam pipe to the cylinders inside the boiler and smoke box.

      If you look at the thread below there are many early locomotives leading up to that that era (1895) that had this arrangement.

      http://www.cparama.com/forum/locomotives-et-trains-de-l-etat-t21236-200.html

       

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