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    • July 13, 2017 10:29 AM EDT
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      Back to back of wheels should be 1.575". I say, should because some wheels are wider and thus needs a slightly narrower back to back gauge.
    • July 13, 2017 2:59 PM EDT
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      Store bought turnouts, especially yours, except Aristo, are made to Enema Ray specs.  Our wheels etc, by and large aren't.  Or, if they were, get out of spec if someone sneezes, or opens the door.

       

      Check your wheel gauge.

      This post was edited by Steve Featherkile at July 13, 2017 3:00 PM EDT
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    • July 13, 2017 8:09 PM EDT
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      Craig Townsend said:
      Back to back of wheels should be 1.575". I say, should because some wheels are wider and thus needs a slightly narrower back to back gauge.

      60 pages of a build log and we are back to basics?

    • July 13, 2017 8:09 PM EDT
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      Steve Featherkile said:

      Store bought turnouts, especially yours, except Aristo, are made to Enema Ray specs.  Our wheels etc, by and large aren't.  Or, if they were, get out of spec if someone sneezes, or opens the door.

       

      Check your wheel gauge.

      Re post

       

    • July 13, 2017 9:24 PM EDT
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      " Rooster " said:
      Craig Townsend said:
      Back to back of wheels should be 1.575". I say, should because some wheels are wider and thus needs a slightly narrower back to back gauge.

      60 pages of a build log and we are back to basics?

      Ah, so. Don't we always have to get back to basics sooner or later?

       

      And I have found that the simple solution is quite often the correct solution. Unless of course its my mom's idea, then its hardly ever the correct solution.

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    • July 13, 2017 10:55 PM EDT
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      Occom's Razor.

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    • July 14, 2017 5:51 AM EDT
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      I dunno Steve. I use a Norelco.

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    • July 14, 2017 1:53 PM EDT
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      Steve Featherkile said:

      Occom's Razor.

      If there is a choice between two answers, the simplest answer is always the best choice.

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    • July 14, 2017 2:16 PM EDT
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      Occom has a hand in most everything I do. 

    • July 14, 2017 5:44 PM EDT
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      Steve, I know.

       

      Todd, be careful you don't cut yourself on his razor.

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    • July 16, 2017 3:13 PM EDT
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      David Maynard said:

      Steve, I know.

       

      Todd, be careful you don't cut yourself on his razor.

       

      You've gotta be sharp!

    • July 16, 2017 11:09 PM EDT
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      Devon, a kadee wheel gauge is a poor substitute for a good gauge. If you can't find one of the aristo gauges, go to harbor freight and get a pair of cheap digital calipers.

      Then go to the nmra site and see the specs.

      On turnouts, the main controlling factor is the back to back. The typical problem with turnouts is excessive flangeway width on the guard rails on the turnout stock rails.

      You need to have your wheels gauged AND your flangeways right. Doing one without the other will not result in success.

       

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    • July 17, 2017 1:11 PM EDT
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      Greg Elmassian said:

      Devon, a kadee wheel gauge is a poor substitute for a good gauge. If you can't find one of the aristo gauges, go to harbor freight and get a pair of cheap digital calipers.

      Then go to the nmra site and see the specs.

      On turnouts, the main controlling factor is the back to back. The typical problem with turnouts is excessive flangeway width on the guard rails on the turnout stock rails.

      You need to have your wheels gauged AND your flangeways right. Doing one without the other will not result in success.

       

      Greg

      Thanks Greg,

       

      I will have the Kadee gauge simply because I am getting it for coupler height as well. But I do, already, have a very very good dial caliper and know how to read it. So getting those accurate is not a concern. Getting it done is just a matter of doing it. I am not at all concerned with it, it was what I discovered and knew the fix, just have other things to get done as well.

       

      On that note, I went to work on my rolling stock and I am in much better shape than I thought in regard to having enough rolling stock with Kadee couplers to have an ops session. I only needed 6 more sets so I went ahead and ordered them

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    • July 17, 2017 1:22 PM EDT
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      Good to hear you have your Priorities in Order!

       

      yer bud,

       

      John

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      The older I get, the less I know, please don't make me prove it.

       

       

    • July 17, 2017 2:23 PM EDT
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      The Aristo 11906 gauge measures about everything, worth finding:

       

       

      Find one, it's worth it... (I have 2)

       

      Probably only in the UK or Canada new now...

       

      Greg

       

       

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    • July 17, 2017 5:01 PM EDT
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      That does look like a mighty fine thing to have for sure.

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    • July 17, 2017 7:28 PM EDT
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      Funny, Aristo could make a good gauge, but they couldn't make anything to fit the gauge, switches, wheel sets, locomotive drives........

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    • July 17, 2017 8:09 PM EDT
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      Oh David, I just about choked reading your comment. Its so true.

       

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    • July 17, 2017 8:12 PM EDT
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      Greg, is it the picture or is that just folded sheet metal? It LOOKS like it could be bent rather easy. What is the problem with a KAdee Guage? Thanks

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    • July 17, 2017 9:01 PM EDT
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      Pete,

      I have such a gauge. It is folded stainless steel. It is very hard and stiff. It will NOT easily bend.

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