I wanna see the cars that adjoin it ! (next build I guess)

Now take the above picture that is matte and beat up ....Now you have what Norman has that we do not!

Just saying

New York Central Explorer
At Dayton Union Station
West End Dayton, Ohio Early 1960's

 The Xplorer was a named train of the New York Central Railroad (NYC), between Cleveland, Ohio and Cincinnati, Ohio. The Xplorer was an attempt by the NYC to modernize rail travel inOhio and lure people out of their cars. The train was built by Pullman to their lightweight Train-X design, and was powered by a Baldwin RP-210 Diesel-hydraulic locomotive.

The train consisted of nine, short, all-aluminum cars articulated together. The center car had two axles (one at each end), with the remaining cars having a single axle each, being supported by adjacent cars at the end opposite the axle. The ride was rough, as with most of the other lightweight trains of the period, and the train was not a success.[1]

The train was retired in 1960, and was sold to Jones Tours, for excursion service. After a long period of storage in South Carolina, the train and locomotive were scrapped around 1970.

The above information was taken from the following website

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/topic/here-s-a-nyc-paint-scheme-i-ve-never-seen

Don't know how it is to the camera compared to the eyeball but on my monitor that yellow is practically neon! A looooong way from NYC's black and  2-tone greys!

Shifting to an undisputed beautiful nose:

NYC's RP-210 has received initial paint - unfortunately my camera distorted the colors (shifting the dark blue to a light one) that even with some quick post-processing the colors are still mixed up

Regards

Norman

Norman Schaake said:

 

Probably its uglyness is the reason that none of the brass builders ever made one.

It's got a face/body that only a mother/rooster  could love!

Norman Schaake said:

MILW should rather have spent some money for a professional designer than to try it doing by themselves.

But did they have any more money?
They weren't quite as hard up as the Rock Island and M&StL, but they sure weren't hauling cash by the carload.
And while talking money, I'm sure she's gonna look like a million bucks when done.

I'm kind of partial to this livery, and yes, maybe it is because, shiny! [url=https://flic.kr/p/5VG3h1][img]https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3128/3233013496_971695fbce.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/5VG3h1]Milwaukee Road #5900[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/31038626@N07/]milepost185[/url], on Flickr

I struggle with those issues myself Norman as I'm trying/thinking to bring this (already done) stuff into modern day and resurrect some old school into my modern day modeling. I'm currently working (on paper) an SDP70PHR and reworking some Alco PA units for an OSC train.

Love the inspirational work !!!

I wouldn't consider it an highlight in streamline-styling - the nose looks really like an ugly bulldog. MILW should rather have spent some money for a professional designer than to try it doing by themselves.

Probably its uglyness is the reason that none of the brass builders ever made one.

I built the shell from joined FA/FB-shell - however, the trucks give me some headaches since they are of an A-1-A type with a rather small wheelbase of 13' or so (and rather unusual positions of springs).

Regards

Norman

OMGram ....

Some news on the several diesel projects:

GE-demonstrator

RI #10000

Started with one of MILW's shop-built motor cars #5900 / #5901

Meanwhile RP-210 is in the paint-shop

As a quick interlude built a 53' wood express reefer for additional head-end traffic

Regards

Norman

Dan, there's plenty of room in the loco proper in any case, whether with socket or not.  I do not run unpowered diesels, grades too steep!

Anyway, if anyone has a picture of the later model FA-1 with the socket and/or the "factory mount" I would be thankful.

Greg

And the decoder fits in the dummy engine real nice on the Aristo F units.

Thank you Paul! I would love to see that speaker mount, that is what I remember, a speaker mounted sideways... I remember seeing it, but cannot find a picture.

Good tips on the connectors, these are my first and only FA-1 units, since the Santa Fe never had them.

Mine are so old, no socket inside, but since they are going DCC, I'll probably pull all the electronics, to make room for more weight.

Greg

When Aristo-Craft started selling FA-1s with Plug and Play sockets, a large weight was put in the fuel tank. An oval speaker was mounted behind the mesh grill on the right side of the diesel behind the cab. Unfortunately I don't have a picture of it on the OVGRS website.

While you have an FA-1 open you may want to consider adding headers and connectors to the bottom of the circuit board on the back door. These wires have a tendency to break when the locomotive is worked on.  

You should also check to see if the wiring between the circuit boards on the frame are wired properly.

The front MU plug will not function if it is wired this way.

Moving the wires over as shown will correct it. 

My old version FA has the ph hobbies sound unit and speaker in the fuel tank.  I did this around 2001.  Power is available without taking the engine apart, just remove the fuel tank.

RE: Aristo-Craft FA1/FB1 Sound Unit - Self contained in fuel tank.

Aristo-Craft had offered an optional FA1/FB1, diesel sound unit, ART-29350, although that part number seemed to be subsequently reused, or reissued in error, for a non powered GP40 motor block.

Power connection appears to be via spring loaded contractors:

"The sound unit comes as a separate item. The circuitry and built-in speaker, come in a plastic casting ARISTO-CRAFT designed to resemble the F-unit's fuel tanks. Except for a three position on-off switch, a volume control, and the pre-drilled speaker holes, it is identical to the F-units' existing underbody detail. Installation is extremely simple: Unscrew the two small screws in the existing fuel tank casting and remove it, position the sound unit casting the same way making sure its electrical contacts touch a mating metal surface on the locomotive's underframe, and replace the two screws. If you want to install one or more external speakers, ARISTO-CRAFT provides hook-up wires. They also include a couple of additional mounting screws.

We had trouble anyway. The mounting screws stripped the plastic in their holes. We replaced them with larger screws.

When the on-off switch is in the center position, the unit emits no sound. When you slide the switch to the left (toward the cab), you hear diesel sounds, bell, and horn. When you slide it to the right (or rear), you hear the undulating rumble of an Alco diesel only. The very clear instructions explain how to add the external speakers. A 10 year old is capable of performing a perfect installation. "

Above excerpt from URL.

Based on looking through Aristo-Craft catalogs, Aristo's first digital sound unit, Part No. ART-29350, was apparently offered in 1993; however, in 1996 one that appears to have a different design with pig tail leads, Part No. ART-29339, appears to have been offered in 1996.

Hope this answers questions how Aristo offered sound in the FA1/FB1 units.

-Ted

Ahh, forgot electronic goldmine! aptly named.

Found some reasonable ones by Tang Band at Parts-Express too.

Thanks, Greg

Either got them from Allelectronics or Electronic Goldmine but it's been a long time.  Actually purchased a couple sets at the time ($14/pr IIRC) some of which I used and some got passed on (they were a perfect fit in the box/stock cars). 

OOOPS Hiccup (double post).