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    • January 7, 2019 6:56 AM EST
    • Jon, With your attention to situations and going into a blind hole, maybe a sensor circuit that will turn on a viewable or audible signal just before you hit the wall, or couple to a car in the hole, may prove to be a helpful addition.

    • January 7, 2019 6:53 AM EST
    • I don't disagree Sean, And I've had similar thoughts. The practical side of me says just get it built so Ops can continue.  I'm not to good at getting scenery done once the track is operational!

    • January 7, 2019 6:49 AM EST
    • Next up ...A trestle would look awesome here .... A great place for  the hobo's to  hangout! ...  with some magic John maybe you could change that cap to look like this ..

      Image result for sewer pipe discharge Use a sleeve to extend it  out,  and paint the inside of the sleeve and cap  black .

    • January 6, 2019 10:36 PM EST
    • Time for some update photos.  As of this evening the Shadow Box level is pretty much complete. Effort can now concentrate on the stair box and a false front for the Mik Challenge. Here is the latest overall view with some test track in place...

       

      And a close up of the Shadow Box.  The tint on the right hand window looks great as a mirror at night, but is too difficult to see through during the day. I will experiment with lighter tints since I do like the day view to the garden. The wooden door at left opens to the ceiling. It will provide access to storage above the soon to be enlarged BOX tunnel. It, along with a mate and two nice round top glass doors were left by previous owner of the house. Not sure what the final finish will look like on it. I may go with a flat black; or just leave it in "early basement"...

       

      After much gnashing of teeth I have decided that the suggestion to trim a corner of the stair box was a good one. These photos show a piece of blue tape where the inside wall would be. The track would rise about 1/2" as expected. There is enough room for my biggest box car. Not sure about the 45 Ton yet...

      The red line on the blue tape is bench top level

       

       

       

      This is the new plan for the Stair Box now if all clearance tests pass...

       

      And Sean will be happy to know that I didn't forget electric while I had the wall open.  Another convenience outlet and a switch for the LED wok light now permanently wired on the ceiling...

       

      I forgot the fixtures in this room are brown and bought a white plate - so back to the Depot I go.

       

    • January 6, 2019 7:04 AM EST
    • Ten 4 good buddy ! ...

    • January 5, 2019 9:40 PM EST
    • Shutup Sean and let the man build !

       

       

       

      Edit for page for,four,fore,4

    • January 4, 2019 7:01 AM EST
    •  If the black was your new  piece , and you cut it to fill the void ( in the V pic)  and you add it to what you already have ( no cutting of already installed top piece)

        

      Wouldn't that work ?

       

    • January 3, 2019 8:12 PM EST
    • Sean said:

      I think I lost him ...  too much info .. The tool is only $10 bucks or so ..

      I have that tool and know how to use it.  But you are not following why it would not help to bevel the edge.  I guess I'll have to create a drawing to illustrate...

       

      Because there is no frame the outside wall must take a fastener. Beveling the .5" (nominal) plywood above the fastener might gain 1/8".   However, if you are suggesting that I trim the entire corner off with a beveled wall; technically that would gain a half inch our more, but at the expense of internal clearance.  I am already very close to bare minimum and don't really want to push it by angling the roof.  It is also possible that there is just enough room for my 45 Ton diesel to get in. It has a high and wide square roof so it would need all of the corner space!

       

      EDIT to add: I'll have to check out how it would work out if I put a small triangular framing member down the side. Then I could cut off the entire corner gaining about a half inch.

    • January 3, 2019 6:08 PM EST
    • Jon, I figured you were always going to use the under the stairs part...  I just wanted to have a lil fun to see if you were really set on under the stairs..

       

      But my recommendations were still valid...   hehehe      

    • January 3, 2019 6:05 PM EST
    • Sean, just so you know, you lost me when you logged onto LSC....      hehehe

    • January 3, 2019 3:32 PM EST
    • Oh boy! An Angle Getter is a favorite tool of mine.

      When I built the tree house I swore off any square angles.

      The Getter got 'er done!

    • January 3, 2019 10:23 AM EST
    • I think I lost him ...  too much info .. The tool is only $10 bucks or so ..

    • January 2, 2019 11:15 AM EST
    • Jon Radder said:

      Good thought, but the box will have a side where it is open now to prevent anything from ending up in the black hole under the stairs. I left the side off so I can paint and/or detail inside the box. My design has that piece attached on the outside so I'm actually going to loose a little more. But once it is built I can try grinding off a little to make it a snug as possible.

      He was thinking of using something like this

      See the source image see  the 1' marking in the drawing ( the pic is just for a visual ) that would be towards the box car and the 30 bevel would actually be what the angle the stars are .

      You use this tool Image result for how to use  a sliding t bevel square like this Image result for how to use  a sliding t bevel square 

      So place the body of the tool (plastic or wood ) were the wood would go and put the shinny metal piece along the bottom of the stair stringer , secure that angle then

      Image result for how to use  a sliding t bevel square transfer that to the top edge of the wood.......

      You're trying to find the angle were the top of your box and were the stair stringer meet!

       

    • January 2, 2019 10:46 AM EST
    • Jon Radder said:

      A print would be the lazy way out!  I think this front may be my challenge build.  I do like your business name suggestion and the logo could be used to highlight the front...

       

      Isn't that near you ?

       

    • January 2, 2019 10:20 AM EST
    • David Marconi,FOGCH said:

      Jon, looking at this pic you can gain a half inch of clearance (or grade) by beveling the edge of plywood at the stringer.

       

      Good thought, but the box will have a side where it is open now to prevent anything from ending up in the black hole under the stairs. I left the side off so I can paint and/or detail inside the box. My design has that piece attached on the outside so I'm actually going to loose a little more. But once it is built I can try grinding off a little to make it a snug as possible.

    • January 2, 2019 10:15 AM EST
    • A print would be the lazy way out!  I think this front may be my challenge build.  I do like your business name suggestion and the logo could be used to highlight the front...

    • January 2, 2019 8:13 AM EST
    • Jon Radder said:

      (chunk-o-wood under a wheel). 

      Drill a hole and insert wooden dowels ... you can have them @ diff. locations and no one would be the wiser..

       

    • January 2, 2019 7:51 AM EST
    • Jon, looking at this pic you can gain a half inch of clearance (or grade) by beveling the edge of plywood at the stringer.

    • January 1, 2019 9:38 PM EST
    • " Rooster " said:

      Just a thought.....instead of climbing back there and painting. Perhaps get some stick on glass film for the new window that they sell at Home Depot and Lowes. That way you can still let the natural light enter with less work and hide the wall. https://www.homedepot.com/b/Window-Treatments-Window-Film/N-5yc1vZarc3

      I may have mentioned in an earlier reply that I have some film in stock. It's a narrow roll but I can handle having a seam.  For testing purposes I only did the right hand pane. It does tone down what you can see through the window, but then again I like the clear view too. Another plus for film is that it adds a pretty good security barrier at night limiting the view in from the outside.  Here is what the test looked like without and with interior lights on...