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    • February 12, 2019 9:59 PM EST
    • Very clever drawer!

    • February 12, 2019 8:18 PM EST
    • I took a snow day today, so a lot got done.  First up: Mount a 1x3 to the block wall with Tapcon screws as a mount point for the drawer slide,  Do similar with a strip of 1/4" plywood on the wood wall side then mount up the slides. Getting everything square, level and parallel was a bit of fun.  With that done I was ready to close up the bench frame - all except one member which needs position calculation using track in final configuration.

       

      Here is the face view - I'm trying to keep the angle close to the same so Sean can animate them when it's done!  Door closed; shelf stowed...

       

      Open the door and slide out the test shelf frame...

       

      Looking in, toward BOX Tunnel...

       

      Just above the pipe in the last pic will be another cross member closing the box. This will be the transition point for the grade so it needs to be at a track joint.  I just hope it's not too sharp causing coupler issues.

       

      Before the next steps I need to be close to final track alignment, so set it all up again.  I can get adequate clearance on the box car and still get 36" or better of track after the switch on both legs.  Checking where the angle ends up I can still fit the bookcase on the wall....

       

      Next I need to frame out the face angle. Then I can cut deck plywood.  This weekend I might get paneling cut and put back on.

       

      BTW - There is some serious lens distortion in the portrait shots. It's a lot closer to square than it looks!

    • February 12, 2019 6:27 AM EST
    • Great pictures!  Having been there, I can fully understand the space and what you are doing.  Great use of space!

    • February 11, 2019 11:10 PM EST
    • Nothing has changed from that angle, but behind the wall the abyss has been sealed up & preparation made to hang sliders for the shelf / drawer.  I can't finish the exposed bench untill all work is done back here. I need that exposed concrete to step on.  Today's work...

    • February 11, 2019 7:10 PM EST
    • New pic required !

    • February 11, 2019 6:15 PM EST
    • Sean McGillicuddy said:

       

      In this pic , could you move the switch back a tad,  so you are closer to the stud .. how close is the box car now or are you just right ?

       

      Again - this is not final alignment. I used sectional pieces that I had on hand to get close. Once the construction is done I will move things as close as possible while will maintaining full Fn3 clearances. That places the switch back about 8 ties from here it is in this pic.

       

      And yes, a retaining wall is still in the plan.  Eventually all of the track crossing over the low section will be on wood trestles.  I'm thinking possible a coal unloading trestle and maybe a conveyor system feeding the building.

    • February 11, 2019 12:50 PM EST
    • Going back to the block wall idea for the fascia .. after seeing the latest track plan ..

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    • February 11, 2019 12:42 PM EST
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      In this pic , could you move the switch back a tad,  so you are closer to the stud .. how close is the box car now or are you just right ?

    • February 10, 2019 8:20 PM EST
    • Bruce D. Chandler said:
      Ken Brunt said:

      That's the part I like, moving track around, finding out what fits and what don't, what works and what don't. 

      And thinking it works...until you run a train...

      Exactly. That why this was a connected rail test. Those cars came in by loco from the working layout. I spent some time switching out both configurations to see what worked.

       

      @Sean - A curve toward the camera was the original idea. I decided that the one extra car it would gain was not needed. I'd rather be able to put back the antique glass front bookcase with the clock on top in teh spot it came from. After all, it's not how many cars you can put at a spot, it's how many spots there are for cars. Get it???  Just as much fun to switch out one as three.

       

      When I start cutting track, both tracks out of the switch will be dead straight about 36" long.

    • February 10, 2019 6:27 PM EST
    • Ken Brunt said:

      That's the part I like, moving track around, finding out what fits and what don't, what works and what don't. 

      And thinking it works...until you run a train...

    • February 10, 2019 5:53 PM EST
    • That's the part I like, moving track around, finding out what fits and what don't, what works and what don't. 

    • February 10, 2019 5:49 PM EST
    • What if you had a curve going towards the right after the switch in this pic it goes to the left ..

       

    • February 10, 2019 3:56 PM EST
    • Functional track test trials were held yesterday. This photo illustrates why the 19.5 degree crossing plan will not work.  In order to maintain minimum clearances the crossing ends up too close to the end of available space. As a result I can barely fit one car each on the main and the crossing track...

      And even 1 car is pushing it. With the tank in place, the hopper can't move. If the short hopper is not as far back as possible the tank doesn't clear.  Since my goal is more switching, not pretty track work this option has lost.  Anyone need a nearly new brass 19.5 degree crossing?

       

      The alternate plan is to move the right switch to the main.  I didn't have enough cut track to get optimum results in my test, but learned enough to make the decision.  This is the working test...

      Without curving around to the wall I can comfortably fit one car on each track clear of the switch.  I may just abandon the idea of curving to run along the stair wall. That will allow keeping the original furniture placement from the before picture.

       

      EDIT to add this photo looking back toward BOX that I forgot about...

       

      So, it's back to finishing up construction. I ordered a pair of 28" full extension file cabinet glides that will be mounted about 18" above the track deck and hold a 36" drawer that I will build to hide behind the wood door. Today I added a switched outlet high above BOX tunnel so that all of the work lights are on one switch.  Tomorrow after work I'll use the panel saw to cut some plywood to close in the back if the stud wall preventing anything from falling into the abyss.  Once all of that is done I think I am ready to finish the bench work and put the paneling back on the front.

    • February 9, 2019 5:50 PM EST
    • hehe like I said a thought.

    • February 9, 2019 1:36 PM EST
    • Nice plan Dave,  but I'm afraid I just don't have the room unless I change to On30!  Fn3 radius requirements are pretty broad.  I did a quick check using R1 curves to turn the corner and even my short cars can't handle it - the wheels bind and the body mounts swing out too far.  In order to switch out that car at the bottom of your drawing would require a tail of nearly 4 feet.

    • February 9, 2019 1:20 PM EST
    • Jon I offer a thought again.

    • February 9, 2019 11:49 AM EST
    • Big photo dump.  Last night was track configuration testing. As expected; what I drew in RRTrack will not quite work due to clearances. First step, cut open the side of BOX tunnel to allow the first switch to be placed as far back as possible...

       

      With that done, the deck was temporarily put in place...

       

      Track was connected and clearances checked with a box car. This is tighter than I would like it, but I wanted to see what might be possible....

       

       

      I love the look with the crossover, but using it puts the right switch too close to the end of the bench to allow a wide radius turn to make a 90 degree bend inside the wall. Best I can do is one section of curve...

       

      This view through the BOX is pretty cool...

       

      The alternate plan is to eliminate the crossover putting the right switch on the main as close to the wall stud as possible...

       

      Makes for a much more boring alignment....

       

      So now I need to decide what is more important - interesting track work, or making the turn.  In the mean time, I'll work on that shelf while I ponder track configurations.

    • February 8, 2019 7:59 PM EST
    • Oh ..  Something like this.. 

    • February 8, 2019 7:40 PM EST
    • My former body would not have allowed me to get into that space.

      He He He ...

    • February 8, 2019 7:08 PM EST
    • The storage plan:  In the before pic you can see that previously there were several shelves here that were packed full of stuff. That stuff is temporarily living on portable shelving set up in the middle of the room. It will need a new permanent home.  My idea is to add a level above the track bench where the track goes behind the wall.

       

      Reference pic -

       

      Above this bench frame, approximately where the green tape is on the left, I'll build another frame which will also be decked over.  I am looking into track that I could use to slide a rack, or shallow tray out into the open area for access. In the latest picture you can see the door for this storage area already in place. It pivots up and latches to the ceiling when open.

       

      I purchased the wood to build the frame this evening on the way home; but I think I need to investigate track / sliding bin systems before I commit to a deck.

       

      Tonight's project is a simple one as I am whooped!  I'm going to trim back the inside wall of what is left of BOX tunnel to allow the switch to be as far back as possible. Track trials last night proved this was required to get the crossover switch to be on the level, before the grade down to McGiillicuddy's.

       

      The lower level deck will not be track level.  The track will enter the building a few inches above it.

       

      Another random thought;  Sean said "old Jon" could not have been able to build this.  Well; I am still old Jon- even older than I was before loosing weight. But I get it. My former body would not have allowed me to get into that space.