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    • October 6, 2019 10:26 PM EDT
    • You can try some nail polish on the frogs, insulating the tracks back a bit, so the shoes cannot contact the wrong rail.

       

      The nail polish won't last forever, but will help you prove what the problem is.

       

      I hate skates, but on short wheelbase steamers, especially 0-4-0's you really need them for good power pickup.

       

      Let us know what you find.

       

      Greg

    • October 6, 2019 10:06 PM EDT
    • Steve said:

      ok, so I need some help.  I've been testing the layout and I'm having a problem over switches and my two crossovers.  What happens, is on occasion once the engines pickup shoes crossover the plastic frog and starts to come in contact with the rail, I get a huge spark and the it triggers my dcc system and shuts down.  I have to turn my remote of and then back on...  it happens with both locos I have tested.  Doesn't do it all the time.  Also, sometimes it's not as bad as in the first few minutes of this video.  It'll stop and the continue on its way, other times it'll just stop..

       

      Help, and thanks

       

      Ps, all new track, so it's not dirty.

       

    • October 6, 2019 9:37 PM EDT
    • David Maynard said:

      The pick up shoes can, and sometimes do, touch both rails that terminate in the frog. I solved the issue with my USA F3 by bending the pick up shoes so they angle upward a bit from the inside to the outside. That way the shoe cannot contact both rails that terminate in the frog.

       

      On my LGB Porters and similar sized locomotives, I removed the shoes entirely.

       

      I was thinking the same thing, I'll have to watch closer because it does seem to come close to the other rail.  I wonder why they need pickup shoes.  Just curious since my understanding on how to hookup 2 simple wires to the track is to difficult for me to understand.. <jk>

      I may just bend them back a little.

       

      Thanks

       

    • October 6, 2019 9:32 PM EDT
    • Fred Mills. said:

      …...NOT a fault of the track....probably a short caused by a poor understanding of electricity, and how it applies to two rail, track powered model trains...DC, or DCC...

       You need to learn more about ELECTRICITY, and "How to wire a model railroad".

        Show a track plan, and the wiring plan you are using...it might help those that may have answers to your problems.

       

       

      OMG, are you really that stupid.  lmao, seriously, it's basically two ovals with one power connector to track.  I'm not brain dead, I've been around models for over 50 years, and I think I can handle hooking up two wires..   that means 1 wire goes to one rail and the other wire to the one that doesn't have one.  Gawd, that's hard to understand..

       

      Layout was posted on first page of this thread.  Read much?

    • October 6, 2019 8:09 PM EDT
    • Fred Mills. said:

      …...NOT a fault of the track....probably a short caused by a poor understanding of electricity, and how it applies to two rail, track powered model trains...DC, or DCC...

       You need to learn more about ELECTRICITY, and "How to wire a model railroad".

        Show a track plan, and the wiring plan you are using...it might help those that may have answers to your problems.

      Never mind

    • October 6, 2019 7:31 PM EDT
    • The pick up shoes can, and sometimes do, touch both rails that terminate in the frog. I solved the issue with my USA F3 by bending the pick up shoes so they angle upward a bit from the inside to the outside. That way the shoe cannot contact both rails that terminate in the frog.

       

      On my LGB Porters and similar sized locomotives, I removed the shoes entirely.

    • October 6, 2019 7:22 PM EDT
    • …...NOT a fault of the track....probably a short caused by a poor understanding of electricity, and how it applies to two rail, track powered model trains...DC, or DCC...

       You need to learn more about ELECTRICITY, and "How to wire a model railroad".

        Show a track plan, and the wiring plan you are using...it might help those that may have answers to your problems.

    • October 6, 2019 6:35 PM EDT
    • Bill Barnwell said:

      Oh if the track has been outside for more than a week, it needs cleaning, adding a behind the engine electrical pickup car that is electrically tied to the engine will eliminate 99% of you problems example is LGB 2015 and 2017 with powered tender ( although the powered isn't important )the space that the electrical pick up covers is. A mogul with traverse dirty track, shorts, connection problems, where a 2010 or 2020 wont. Clean weekly with a drywall sander using a scotch bright pad and add a pick up car. you will have a lot of fun, Bill

       

      the falls

       

       

      Hi, track is all new, never used inside or out.  I personally think it's piko's cheap track or cheap locos.

       

      Thanks for the tip on the scotch bright, I'll have to pick up a few.

       

      Thanks

       

    • October 6, 2019 6:08 PM EDT
    • Oh if the track has been outside for more than a week, it needs cleaning, adding a behind the engine electrical pickup car that is electrically tied to the engine will eliminate 99% of you problems example is LGB 2015 and 2017 with powered tender ( although the powered isn't important )the space that the electrical pick up covers is. A mogul with traverse dirty track, shorts, connection problems, where a 2010 or 2020 wont. Clean weekly with a drywall sander using a scotch bright pad and add a pick up car. you will have a lot of fun, Bill

       

      the falls

    • October 6, 2019 5:12 PM EDT
    • ok, so I need some help.  I've been testing the layout and I'm having a problem over switches and my two crossovers.  What happens, is on occasion once the engines pickup shoes crossover the plastic frog and starts to come in contact with the rail, I get a huge spark and the it triggers my dcc system and shuts down.  I have to turn my remote of and then back on...  it happens with both locos I have tested.  Doesn't do it all the time.  Also, sometimes it's not as bad as in the first few minutes of this video.  It'll stop and the continue on its way, other times it'll just stop..

       

      Help, and thanks

       

      Ps, all new track, so it's not dirty.

    • October 6, 2019 8:08 PM EDT
    • Well, the FA was my first diesel loco I got.  The Rock isn’t really a favorite line, I was a big UP fan as a kid, and still am. I do like the red/black scheme and since it is a midwestern line, I feel like I can run any railroad livery behind as a connection in Chicago  


      Ted Doskaris
      said:

      Bill,

      I like your layout and Rock Island trains running on it.  How did you happen to take an interest in Rock Island?

      Thank you,

      -Ted

       

    • October 6, 2019 7:53 PM EDT
    • Bill,

      I like your layout and Rock Island trains running on it.  How did you happen to take an interest in Rock Island?

      Thank you,

      -Ted

    • October 6, 2019 7:34 PM EDT
    • I mentioned in chat, LSC doesn’t like mobile pictures. 

    • October 6, 2019 7:33 PM EDT
    • Interesting wrong side up pictures.

    • October 6, 2019 6:40 PM EDT
    • Had planned on running my A-B Rock Island consist with a decent length freight train behind, alas, my TE transmitter died. So, you get photos of what likely will be how my layout finishes the season.

      Added the switch house, bumper, telephone poles, box car storage building, roadbed and bridge this summer. Hoping to do more gardening and detail/populating next year.

       

      *edit*  Got back to my computer this morning and re-attached.  Should be right-side up.

    • September 24, 2019 6:26 PM EDT
    • Tim said:

      next step: fire up the industrial strength weed wacker to solve the bamboo problem....

      Just cutting bamboo down won't eliminate it. It is very aggressive. You have to dig out ALL the roots if you don't want it to regenerate! Don't ask me how I know.

       

    • September 24, 2019 5:31 PM EDT
    • David Maynard said:

      Or we could use Napalm, or Agent Orange.....

      It's some tough plant!   And fast growing!  We measured a cane every day for a few weeks and it averaged 7 1/2" a day!  Also it can spread underground 15-20' in a season and I'm in the Northeast (zone 6a)

       

      Oops! are we still on topic?

    • September 24, 2019 4:41 PM EDT
    • David Maynard said:

      Or we could use Napalm, or Agent Orange.....

      I have some gasoline handy ;)

    • September 24, 2019 4:19 PM EDT
    • Or we could use Napalm, or Agent Orange.....

    • September 24, 2019 7:17 AM EDT
    • Vic Smith said:

      LOL I like the pandas idea. Once I cut it back I'm going to have to rent a rototiller to clear the roots out and keep a bottle of Roundup handy to blast any new sprouts.

      I control mine by cutting with a shovel, pulling em up and tossing the roots in the firepit.  Any bit of rhizome left in the ground will grow more.  If you want to kill it, use the super concentrated roundup poured down the hollow of shoots cut close to the ground.