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    • May 28, 2020 9:46 AM EDT
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      The number on the motor block 22460 designated this one.

       

       

    • May 28, 2020 8:18 AM EDT
    • Thanks all for the help.  The knowledge base here is fantastic.  The loco was indeed built by George Konrad and I have been in contact with him.  The loco has a single cog wheel.

       

      George built 5 of these locomotives,  Four of which were were a basic detail and one (this one) had a lot more detail in the number of cylinders an other items.

       

      It is indeed a model of a Pikes Peak locomotive and used a stock LGB model as its starting point,

       

      Anyone have an idea of the LGB model used as the starting point?

       

      Thanks

       

      Stan

       

       

       

       

    • May 28, 2020 7:20 AM EDT
    • A friend of mine had a custom modified LGB COG loco and he mentioned that there were 3 custom mods made by the person he bought this from.  That was over 15 years ago.

       

    • May 27, 2020 7:48 PM EDT
    • Stanley Ames said:

      Next mystery is trying to figure out the identity of this LGB Rack loco,

       

      I think it is a model of a Pikes Peak cog loco.  Most Mt Washington cog locos have a tender.

       

      The mechanism is LGB and I suspect most of the parts are as well.

       

      It is reported to have been custom built but from what.

       

      Stan

       

      Does it have a single cog wheel under the loco?

      Most likely the mechanism is from LGB's first cog locomotive available circa 1985.

      I am pretty sure this was custom built by New Hampshire Garden Railway member George Konrad.

      I first saw it or a VERY similar one at a nursery in the southeast of Boston.

      One of the members of the NHGRS might know how to contact him in his new location in California.

      I had some pictures but they are on some old hard drive somewhere.

      Pictures were from around turn of the century:-(

    • May 27, 2020 5:17 PM EDT
    • John;

       

      I think the Pike's Peak rack locomotives were a form of Vauclain compound.  (Named for Samuel Vauclain, the chief design engineer for Baldwin Locomotive Works around the turn of the 20th century.)  The low pressure cylinder was mounted above the high pressure cylinder, and the valve chest was behind those two.  Vauclain compounds were high maintenance machines, and somewhat finnicky runners.  The system may have worked acceptably for rack operations, as there was very little speed involved.

       

      Best Wishes, David Meashey 

    • May 27, 2020 12:57 PM EDT
    • I find the cylinder choice odd, appears to be running off the valve chest... but then again...

      Manitou and Pike's Peak Railway 1891-2016: 125 years on the Peak ...

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    • May 27, 2020 11:27 AM EDT
    • Thanks for all the help on the boxcar

       

      Next mystery is trying to figure out the identity of this LGB Rack loco,

       

      I think it is a model of a Pikes Peak cog loco.  Most Mt Washington cog locos have a tender.

       

      The mechanism is LGB and I suspect most of the parts are as well.

       

      It is reported to have been custom built but from what.

       

      Stan

       

    • May 26, 2020 10:16 AM EDT
    • Stan,

      What on Earth happened to you on May 16th? Did you get hit on the coconut by a meteor?

    • May 17, 2020 1:06 PM EDT
    • Stan,

      Defiantly Hartford no question. looks to be in good condition. do you want to swap for an Accucraft one? it even has the right couplers on it.

       

      Al P.

    • May 17, 2020 10:52 AM EDT
    • Stanley Ames said:

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      I have attached 2 photos.  In looking closely at the trucks they do not appear to be Accucraft trucks because they have a slotted screw holding the sideframes and the brake rigging is much different.

       

      If these are Hartford trucks that would solve the cars identity.

      Stan 

      Stan, I have attached 3 photos from the Hartford calalog. Their boxcar, the underside of the caboose (sure looks like your trucks!) and the D&RGW 3' 7" truck. It might give you some details.

       

      A thought! Scrape the back of a truck sideframe. Hartford are white metal. Accucraft trucks are brass.

    • May 17, 2020 8:39 AM EDT
    • Stanley Ames said:

      Thanks for all who have provided thoughts.  I also apologize for the 4 posts.  I have no idea how this happened.

      I have attached 2 photos.  In looking closely at the trucks they do not appear to be Accucraft trucks because they have a slotted screw holding the sideframes and the brake rigging is much different.

      If these are Hartford trucks that would solve the cars identity.

      Stan 

      I was shortchanged!  I only got to see ONE post.     

      I'm thinking Hartford, but I don't have ANY Hartford trucks to go by.  (I could NEVER get them to assemble correctly and then Rodney offered some that were so much better!).  The under body sure looks like it could be Hartford, but the only Hartford kit I ever built was the caboose - yet it just has that same sort of look.

       

    • May 17, 2020 7:28 AM EDT
    • Thanks for all who have provided thoughts.  I also apologize for the 4 posts.  I have no idea how this happened.

       

      I have attached 2 photos.  In looking closely at the trucks they do not appear to be Accucraft trucks because they have a slotted screw holding the sideframes and the brake rigging is much different.

       

      If these are Hartford trucks that would solve the cars identity.

       

      Stan 

    • May 16, 2020 10:20 AM EDT
    • Stanley Ames said:

      I have a wood (not plastic) 1:20.3 D&RGW 3000 series box car.

      I suspect it may be a built up Hartford kit.  Is there any​ way to tell for sure?
      Thanks
      Stan
       There's a different level of detail between a PNG Kit and a Hartford kit.   The PNG kits are VERY sturdy.   
      For instance, this PNG Reefer has brass grab irons held in place with brass pins.
       
      This Hartford Caboose has everything cast but in finer detail;  as I recall, there were holds pre-drilled to hold the grab irons...but the metal is rather soft.
      There's a lot of under body detail as well.
       
      If you could post a picture, it MIGHT help...or it might just be too difficult to tell!

       

    • May 16, 2020 10:08 AM EDT
    • I have scratch built 1:20.3 boxcars using parts from Phils and Hartford. When finished, you couldn't tell the difference from the kits.

      So your boxcar  could have been scratch built as well.

       

    • May 16, 2020 8:27 AM EDT
    • Could have been Hartford or Phils Narrow Gauge. 

      I have a built up wooden reefer from Phil. 

      philsnarrowgauge

       

    • May 16, 2020 7:56 AM EDT
    • I have a wood (not plastic) 1:20.3 D&RGW 3000 series box car.

      I suspect it may be a built up Hartford kit.  Is there any​ way to tell for sure?
       
      Thanks
       
      Stan
       
       

    • May 16, 2020 7:56 AM EDT
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    • May 16, 2020 7:56 AM EDT
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