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    • March 11, 2017 1:46 PM EST
    • What about the old school card systems?

      You have cards for the industries, and shuffle them up and then put them in pockets on the cars (or some variation)...

      Just curious.

       

      Greg

    • March 10, 2017 8:04 PM EST
    • Funny you should mention that. I did a search tonight for some other software and found this;

      http://nmra.org/software

      There are several operations software packages listed on this page, as well as design software and such.

    • March 10, 2017 7:21 PM EST
    • I have seen JMRI and RailOps discussed in this thread. RailOps is reportedly no longer supported. There seems to be a fair amount of discussion about JMRI and it appears a lot of people are using it, but our club ops folks claim "The UI seemed really clunky and non-intuitive. " Are there any other ops software packages out there to keep track of car cards and waybills and the other things one needs for ops?

      I am brand new at ops and have only witnessed one short demo session, so I don't really know what it is all about, yet.

      Thanks,

      Michael

    • March 9, 2017 4:32 PM EST
    • Daktah John said:

      By George, I think you've got it

       

      I make my spur length about a half car longer than I need in case cars grow in the future.  Not sure if that helps anything; it's just theory.

      Oh yea, my cars grow. But, its the number of cars I have that is somehow growing, not the length of each car.

    • March 9, 2017 2:29 PM EST
    • Thank you Bob and Joe.  I am in the process of setting up JMRI with a scale of 20.5 and will see how it works.  Most of my cars are 15" (26') the Log cars are only 11" (19').

      Jay

    • March 9, 2017 1:34 PM EST
    • Following up on Bob's post, here’s how I calculate the length of my siding for two spurs with two-car capacity each, a total of 4 cars. Keep in mind that JMRI adds scale two feet on both sides of the car body for the couplers.

      Boxcar length (body only, no couplers): 18.25 inches

      JMRI coupler length (4 feet x 12 inches per foot / 20.3 scale): 2.4 inches

      Total car length: 20.6 inches, I will round up to 21 inches

      Total cars per spur: 2

      Length of spur: 2 x 21 inches = 42 inches

      Add buffer of 6 inches (for variability in car lengths, but less than the length of one car)

      Total length of spur: 42 + 6 = 48 inches

      Total length of siding for two spurs: 48 x 2 = 96 inches or 8 feet

      I noticed that JMRI lets you set your scale at “G” but does not specify any finer detail such as 1/32, 1/29, 1/24, 1/22.5 or 1/20.3. It doesn’t need this information to operate. It is up to the operator to do some math.

      Since JMRI operates in scale feet, I am converting all my measurements to scale feet in 1/20.3 basically for consistency.

       

    • March 9, 2017 8:38 AM EST
    • Jay Root said:

      My cars are 15-16 inches long, so how do you setup JMRI spur length to handle one or two cars only?  What scale factor do you use?

      Jay

       

      You can really use any scale factor you want, just be consistent.  If you use inches, use inches for car length, train length, siding length, etc.  If you use feet, same thing, be consistent.  It really doesnt care if "250" for a siding length is in feet or inches, it can fit 10 cars of "25" length. (actually, probably 9 cars because of coupler hang, etc)

       

      I find I have to tweak siding lengths anyway.  I did a full measuring of the railroad, but then had to go in and see why cars wernt getting dropped off like I thought.  Takes a bit of twiddling.

    • March 9, 2017 8:23 AM EST
    • My cars are 15-16 inches long, so how do you setup JMRI spur length to handle one or two cars only?  What scale factor do you use?

      Jay

    • March 9, 2017 12:25 AM EST
    • I'm definitely using this! Thanks!

    • March 8, 2017 11:20 PM EST
    • By George, I think you've got it

       

      I make my spur length about a half car longer than I need in case cars grow in the future.  Not sure if that helps anything; it's just theory.

    • March 8, 2017 10:43 PM EST
    • After reading Daktah John's operations topic I noticed he had multiple industries/stops on one siding. This could really work well for me. For example, I would like to have a stockyard and a freight depot on the same siding. Each could hold two cars. It sounds like I should label them as separate spurs in JMRI. I could limit the stockyard to stock cars only so nothing else gets spotted there. I would make the spur lengths just long enough to handle the two cars each. Am I missing anything?

    • February 21, 2017 2:19 PM EST
    • Ken Brunt said:

      I don't worry about whether the car is loaded or not, only that one needs to be picked up or dropped off at a certain industry. I do have loads for gons, hoppers and flat cars, but as far as I'm concerned, I just know a certain industry needs a certain car. I look at it this way,if they need a flat car, they'll load it. If I have to pick up a flat car, they've unloaded it. 

      Same here.  Most of my flats, gondolas and hoppers are empty. Box cars all have closed doors and tanks, who can tell?.  I just don't worry about it.

    • February 21, 2017 10:43 AM EST
    • That about what I figured.  No work for the five finger crain.  Now I need to build a liftout bridge.  Too old for the duck under.

    • February 21, 2017 9:16 AM EST
    • I don't worry about whether the car is loaded or not, only that one needs to be picked up or dropped off at a certain industry. I do have loads for gons, hoppers and flat cars, but as far as I'm concerned, I just know a certain industry needs a certain car. I look at it this way,if they need a flat car, they'll load it. If I have to pick up a flat car, they've unloaded it. 

    • February 21, 2017 8:48 AM EST
    • When you do op sections, do you use cars that require visual loads?  Flat, gons, log and coal cars.  Or do you use closed cars only?

      Jay

    • February 19, 2017 8:19 PM EST
    • Yep, I did not assign locomotives so I am going with just cars and cabeese.  I added some extra length, which is working well since I have short and long cabeese. Thanks so much for your help.

    • February 19, 2017 6:59 PM EST
    • I don't.  Because I want to choose the locomotive, rather then having JMRI tell me, I don't include them in my roster. Same with Cabeese. So in my case, train length is all revenue cars.

       

      You can build and reset trains as often as you want without actually running them. That is a good way to tweak, so you could assume that it is not included then build a few trains. If they are less than 6 cars due to train length, then you have the answer.

    • February 19, 2017 5:49 PM EST
    • Thanks John. Do you happen to know if the maximum train length in Settings includes or excludes the length of the locomotive and tender?

    • February 19, 2017 3:05 PM EST
    • I have a tip for you there too :)  Look at Cars and see what length you entered for the oil tankers and the caboose. Then make the maximum train length a few feet longer, but not a full car longer than what you want. That way, in the future if you get a tanker or two that is just a foot or so longer you can still put 6 on the train.

    • February 19, 2017 3:00 PM EST
    • Yes, thanks John.  That worked out great! Next up is figuring out my maximum train length to keep my oil industry trains to 6 or less cars plus caboose.  My strategy is to do some math and enter a maximum length in feet in the Settings menu.