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    • November 3, 2020 8:54 PM EST
    • It would really depend on the engine or more properly the vintage and"modern-ness" of said engine.  I am a fireman on WW&F # 9 built in 1891 and not the latest design at the time.  I pull a rope to ring the bell!  It can be a lot and loud or softer depending on my mood and the situation.  The whistle is also old school, being a single note hooter rather than a chime whistle.

       https://youtu.be/AKFecDz4jbk

    • November 3, 2020 8:54 PM EST
    • It would really depend on the engine or more properly the vintage and"modern-ness" of said engine.  I am a fireman on WW&F # 9 built in 1891 and not the latest design at the time.  I pull a rope to ring the bell!  It can be a lot and loud or softer depending on my mood and the situation.  The whistle is also old school, being a single note hooter rather than a chime whistle.

       

    • November 3, 2020 4:56 PM EST
    • 1) I have bell recordings of several steam locomotives 24 bit 96KHz that you can have.  Most of the recordings are raw but have been used by a variety of sound manufacturers.

      Stan, I'd love to see if they will work. I sent you a PM.

       

    • November 3, 2020 1:19 PM EST
    • Pete Thornton said:

      As many of you know, I've been working with Tony at RCS to get some US-style whistles for our r/c live steamers. I also told Tony we need a bell sound.  Which leads to 2 questions:

      1. Does anyone have a locomotive bell recording that Tony can use?

      2. Were locomotive bells usually hand-activated (pull rope from cab) or rung by a steam-powered clapper?

       

      Pete

       

      1) I have bell recordings of several steam locomotives 24 bit 96KHz that you can have.  Most of the recordings are raw but have been used by a variety of sound manufacturers.

       

      2) Some locomotives have steam-powered bells and some do not.  The larger more recient mainline locomotives were for the most part steam-powered.  But earlier ones were not.  In the NG I have fired a short section when they had to turn 315 and  it was hand rung.  The K36s are steam-powered.  However just because a locomotive has a steam-powered bell does not always mean that it is used.  For example while an engineer on a K36 reciently the steam -power mechanism was having problems so the fireman was hand ringing the bell.

       

      Hope that helps

       

      Stan

       

    • November 2, 2020 12:34 AM EST
    • Hello Dave and Peter.

      Yes. it is quite possible air ringer bells were more widespread than I thought.

      That will not be a problem actually.

      The Micro SD player will have 8 trigger-able sound slots so it can have two types of bells.
      The hardware is working fine so all it will need to get going are suitable files.

      The user will also be able to add their own sounds as well.

      This new doodad is a follow on to the single play whistles I have for Live Steam locos right now.
      They will be announced this week and the 8 slot version as soon as I am happy it is right.

    • November 1, 2020 8:14 PM EST
    • Pete;

       

      Both of the Porter steam locomotives that I ran for the Wanamaker, Kempton & Southern had air ringers for their bells (an air cylinder physically moved the bell harp).  Both of these locomotives were built in the 1920s, and they were just simple industrial switchers.  To me anyway, this suggests that air ringers were fairly common on later production steam locomotives.  I have been gone from the W, K&S for over 43 years now, so no chance for a recording.  I could hear the workings pretty well from the locomotive cab.  It was like: "Pssst! Clang! Pssst! Clang! Pssst! Clang! Pssst! Clang!"  Not much help, I suppose, but gives you an idea.

       

      Regards, David Meashey

    • November 1, 2020 5:41 PM EST
    • More then you ever wanted to know

      Indeed. And now for some answers, I hope. . .  Tony thinks most were hand operated, so the question is: does anyone have a recording?

       

    • November 1, 2020 10:40 AM EST
    • More then you ever wanted to know

      http://www.railroadiana.org/hw/pgBells.php#:~:text=Large%20steam%20locomotive%20bells%20were,%2D%2D%20usually%20bronze%20or%20brass.&text=Still%20later%2C%20diesel%20locomotives%20and,rung%20by%20an%20air%20ringer.

      I like this site for my (ahem) interest in RR stuff

       

      Jerry

    • November 1, 2020 10:07 AM EST
    • As many of you know, I've been working with Tony at RCS to get some US-style whistles for our r/c live steamers. I also told Tony we need a bell sound.  Which leads to 2 questions:

      1. Does anyone have a locomotive bell recording that Tony can use?

      2. Were locomotive bells usually hand-activated (pull rope from cab) or rung by a steam-powered clapper?

    • October 10, 2020 12:14 AM EDT
    • Hi everyone:

       

      Sorry I haven't been posting, life and obligations have caught up with me for awhile. Been meaning too, but each day seems to bring new obligations. The laser install went smooth we thought, but it wouldn't fire because of a coolant issue, we tested all appropriate systems and came to the conclusion that something in the laser itself had reduced the flow of coolant and caused an alarm. The laser company recommended running a mild bleach solution through all the systems followed by a flush to remove any algae or scale build up...well, that caused  two power supply,  and the RF generator heat exchangers to fail and spew coolant everywhere, so now we have a new set of problems to solve. Fortunately, no electronics or high powered circuits were destroyed since testing was performed with the breakers off to the laser itself. Quite annoying, since we didn't have any issues moving the machine and it rolled quite smoothly into its new location. Oh well.

       

      Many personal issues too, such as many carburetors and ignitions to build all of a sudden(Covid 19 seems to have made everyone enter the garage and work on their hot rods), and I must deal with my dads home and estate. I also had a birthday and regular job interview because Jenn and I want to move to a home with a shop, and getting a loan as a self employed contractor is nearly impossible.

       

      Anyway...tomorrow (Oct., 10th, 2020) starts a small 2 day steamup event to allow the Seattle guys to come down and run, and give them enough time to make it worth the drive. Probably no more than 12-14 people all taking Covid precautions. I will try to make sure the Live @ Staver cameras that are working, are pointed to interesting views of the activities.

       

      I will get back to answering previously asked questions and promised follow ups as soon as things settle down a bit, probably in a week or so.

       

      Thanks

       

      Karl

       

    • October 4, 2020 10:24 PM EDT
    • Looks great, love the freshening up!  Add Tony's RCS RC control to her and really enjoy running steam.  My Pearse 0-4-0 has it and it really makes it nice to keep speed smooth and prototypical.  I can even switch and set out cars as it has working cut levers for the front and rear LGB knuckle couplers.    Mike

    • October 4, 2020 8:21 PM EDT
    • Here is a quick video of the engine running this afternoon 

       

    • October 4, 2020 8:06 PM EDT
    • Had a few hours to hit the railroad while the kids napped today. I decided to do a little freshening up of the engine. Here are a few pics. I plan on doing more of a “standard” pilot on the engine. Just need to figure out what type. 

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      Matt

    • October 4, 2020 2:24 PM EDT
    •  Gentlemen, thanks a lot for the info. Some further research based off of your parameters helped me find a little more detail. Definitely the fowler as you had suggested. I see the new fowlers are somewhat pricey. 

      With the modifications that have been done to this set up, any idea on what the value may be? 

       

      Thanks, 
      Matt

    • October 4, 2020 12:28 PM EDT
    • Brandbright did some special variations of the Roundhouse Fowler, it might be one of those with a bit more "Americanzing" done to it.  The tender and frame are definatlly the Fowler. I was going to say its a modified Sandy River but I think Tony is right.  It started life a Fowler based model, and modified from there, either by RH for Brandbright or by the original owner.   Very common in the USA in those early days of live steam, as very little USA style engines were available till Roundhouse did the Sandy River and Pearse brought out the Colorado and Switcher.     Mike

    • October 3, 2020 5:45 AM EDT
    • This was my one and only Live Steamer.

      A Fowler based Liberty Belle from Brandbright.

      A superb runner and the test bed for my early specialist Live Steam  R/C.

      I only had it for a few months when I received an offer from a fan that was irresistible.

    • October 2, 2020 11:53 PM EDT
    • Hey Tony, I had thought the same, only thing that makes me think otherwise is the placement of the sand dome and bell. The fowler has the double sand dome... the domes and boiler/jacket seem to be one piece without the ability to remove/replace them. And the cab has me thrown a bit too, unless someone had completely fabricated a new one, which could always be the case. 

       

      -Matt

    • October 2, 2020 11:32 PM EDT
    •  

      Quick video of it running 

    • October 2, 2020 11:31 PM EDT
    • Looks like a modified Roundhouse Fowler.

    • October 2, 2020 11:25 PM EDT
    • Hey folks, 

      I acquired this loco a couple years back in a trade and am curious as to what I may actually have here. I couldn't identify any locos directly, but it seemed to resemble the "lady Anne" the most with a roundhouse tender? Maybe...? 

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      The engine runs well, I have some videos I will upload and throw up on youtube for further investigation, if needed. 

      Thanks, 

      Matt