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    • September 19, 2017 7:32 PM EDT
    •    Or some of the things I have asked you about over the years! Do they get listed in their own category?

         I guess these people who say we are too nice must have heard stores about members "yelling" at each other years ago over various topics. To me some of those "yelling matches" were "entertaining" but I think some of those people need a website where we can see the smoke coming out of the website but we don't have to look at it! Or do you want to create a special category that they can be banished to? Just asking!

       

    • September 19, 2017 7:13 PM EDT
    • Bart Salmons YOG said:

      I would post something and it would be met with crickets........

       

       

       

       

      Join the club! I tried to inject a little humor a couple of times (yeah, that was humor) and after that I felt like I was standing in a ghost town watching the tumblin' tumbleweeds go by. I said to myself, "Mike, did you just lay an egg?" I know I can't hold a candle to the likes of senior members McCaughey and Rooster and Boomer and David when it comes to humor, but I'll keep trying. Hey, I'm no eggspert either, but at least I'm still effing "Respected" (I had to ask for it). The more I get "Users say thanks to" votes, the more it inspires me to post worthwhile stuff and responses. Sometimes I think there's East/West contingents here. Not much representation here on the Left coast it seems. OK, enough cryin'.  *wipes eyes with his sleeve*

       

      What was this thread about again? Oh yeah, "Tale of Two Websites. Such as......."Large Scale Central" and "My Large Scale".

       

    • September 19, 2017 6:36 PM EDT
    • Bob McCown said:

      ...Guess what kind of complaints I spend my time responding to our existing members?

       

         You get inundated with complaints about LSC members being too nice?

       

       

    • September 19, 2017 5:36 PM EDT
    • Tony Walsham said:

      Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a widget?

      I think its these, funny as I think these are just a massive waste of time 

    • September 19, 2017 5:08 PM EDT
    • Tony

      Slang term for useful or interesting piece of kit, technology, tool or unusual product. First cousin to a thingamajig.

    • September 19, 2017 4:51 PM EDT
    • Please excuse my ignorance, but what is a widget?

    • September 19, 2017 1:03 PM EDT
    • I migrated from MLS to LSC primarily because the majority of MLS topic threads became too narrowed in scope .  LSC has much more topic variety covering many interests in the GS hobby.   

      I don't look at a given company's product as junk if it has some issue with it, but rather, how to resolve the issue.

      Accordingly, when I post a thread for the that part of the hobby that I embrace it usually has info about how to resolve an issue and how to implement a fix for it with illustrations and link to full detail that serves to memorialize what is done for the benefit of others as well as myself to avoid having to "reinvent the wheel" should the need arise for a revisit at a much later date.

      -Ted

    • September 19, 2017 12:28 PM EDT
    •    Bart, I think you have been derailed from LSC by your artistic talent! At least I keep up with you on Facebook.

         I started with LSC when I started with garden railroading and have never joined another list. I enjoy the members on this list and appreciate the advice I get.

         I only got sidetracked from the list because of the Master Gardener program that I have gotten active with. I am now getting back to the list and being active with both. Now that Fall is here I am doing my Spring maintenance! 

    • September 19, 2017 11:59 AM EDT
    • I am just thouroughly out of the forum habit.....I used to post while I was deep in a project to get feedback.....sometimes some of my best ideas would come from someone else......then it got to the point.....I would post something and it would be met with crickets........so I quit.....

       

       I think we can partially blame social media, its so easiy, accessable, and part of our daily lives, but there isn;t really any way to document a proper build thread for posterity.   At least not one where you can go back and revisiti it months and years later.  I can remeber back in the day we were alll always building something, reasearching something, and shareing the wealth.   Then something happened, it became more of who can throw the most money into their project, or who can insult the manufactuers the worst or why XBrand is Garbage and Y Brand is always the best.  Or it was this is how I did it....if you don;t do it my way you are WRONG!!!!   instead of a ositive thoughtinducing experience, it wasn;t fun any more.......

    • September 19, 2017 10:41 AM EDT
    • So you are seeing another Forum behind our back! I suspected as much when you bought that new ergonomic keyboard and started trimming your cuticles. I thought it was just a case of middle age crazy but I see now that you wanted more content. Why isn't our content enough for you Bob? Is it the graphics? To many pictures, not enough modeling threads...just tell us what to do Bob and we will change! Or is this just a tawdry fling. Is the other Forum prettier than us? Does it fulfill your technical needs with interactive avatars and personalized voice recognition when you visit it. OMG!!!! Are you using the same transistors to surf it where all of your LSC buddies post? How can you bring that filthy IP into the same server where LSC lives? I feel so violated! Whats next Bob? Facebook, Cloud.....INSTAGRAM????? .......And you call yourself a moderator!!!!! You are nothing more than desk top support.

       

      I am going to go call your modem and tell it what you've done. You and your new forum deserve each other! Boo hoo hoo hoo......I hope your Z modified widget that you didn't do at an angel gives you problems!!!!!!!

       

       

    • September 19, 2017 10:07 AM EDT
    • I would like to answer you last question first, with out doubt it is the second. In my 8 or 9 years here on LSC I have observed a shift in the forum. I have observed the growth of the forum in numbers of members, and a growth in the diversity of personalities and knowledge. I have also noticed an increase in the number of 'eggsperts' in everything.

       

      Our hobby, like many others, offers a variety of products at many different levels of cost and quality. I personally own equipment in the full range from American Scientific (all the way on the bottom of the cost and quality scale) to Accucraft (pretty much the pinnacle of price and detail). What I find interesting in my experience is that they all have issues that need to be addressed. I think what makes a site, a site you want to return to is how questions are answered by the members of the site.

       

      In your post, you comment that site one you feel at home. I interpret this to mean that a question will be answered by the members in a direct and positive manner. In other word, in stead of saying as in your example "Your cheap Widget is really poor quality. You want to stop wasting time modifying it, and save your money for a quality Widget" this could have been answered something like this "The widget you are working with has a reputation for not being very durable. Investing time and money here may be disappointing in the long run. I would suggest working with a higher quality widget if you can afford one. Now on to your question ....." This answer in my opinion says the same thing, but not using 80 grit sand paper to say it. And if you are going to post in that light, continue on to answer the OP question, even if you think it is a less than optimum solution.

       

      I believe there is always two ways to approach a subject. Either the glass is half empty of the glass is half full. With that in mind, I will post answers to questions if I have information that I believe will add value to the thread, otherwise I will not post at all. And if the post has any form of process to it, I will usually start by telling the folks that this is the process I use and is not necessarily the ONLY precess. As in most things there is more than one way to 'Skin the cat', we should all remember that. I always try to keep things in a positive note, negativity does nothing to improve a topic. The only time I would consider making a negative post is if I saw something that would, without doubt, end up disastrous. And I haven't seen any of those yet.

       

      Referring back to my first paragraph, I have watched this site loose many good modelers who have either taken their skills off line or just don't bother to post at all for fear of the 'eggsperts' having their say. I think this has cost this site a tremendous resource. I miss the build threads that used to be abundant here, where I learned a lot about large scale and modeling as a whole. I most miss the sharing of tips, tricks, and techniques that those modelers have taken with them. Some are still here and post occasionally (and cautiously), some have gone and only lurk silently in the back ground to keep up with folks they are friends with.

       

      I don't have a magic bullet solution for this situation, and I certainly don't envy Bob having to deal with it. I had hoped the Reputation system would help mitigate this issue, but even there the 'eggsperts' found a way to abuse that as well. One time before, Bob threatened to take the site down, and at that time quite frankly I supported that thought. I wonder if it is time for that threat again? Or maybe the ultimate, do it.

       

      My dad used to tell me that 'Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people'. I will close with the question 'Which one are you?'

    • September 19, 2017 9:23 AM EDT
    • I think a lot of us go out of our way to welcome newcomers and old friends from other sites to LSC.  A person travels, even through the internet, where they feel welcome.  All of us want to show off our work and feelings about how we approach our portion of the hobby or something new we've found or a different way of doing something.  Bob, you've done a good job controlling the personalities of lots of different folks and keeping us civil, while allowing the hobby to be supported.  I know, its a lot like herding kittens.

      Just like you quit posting on the one Widget site, those of us that have been around the large scale portion of model railroading for awhile, tend to gather where we feel we fit in and where our friends are monitoring and posting.     

    • September 19, 2017 9:07 AM EDT
    • I'd like to muse a bit on something I've encountered on two websites, in a hobby I'm just getting back into after a long hiatus.  

       

      I've recently joined a couple of websites for, lets call it, Widget Working.  I have a cheap Widget that I bought second hand, and I am adding capability to the Widget with some DIY work (which is incredibly common in the Widget hobby).  

       

      I joined two websites for Widgets, which are the ones that appear to be the top sites in the hobby.  Each site has a "Once you register, say hi, and tell us what you are doing with your Widget."  On the first site, my opening post was met with over a dozen "Welcome back to the Widget hobby, it sounds like you are having fun and learning some things about your new Widget".  In two weeks I have over 50 posts in a dozen threads, and feel right at home.  On the second site, my identical post was met with three posts.  One "Welcome to the site" type post from a moderator, one "Your cheap Widget is really poor quality.  You want to stop wasting time modifying it, and save your money for a quality Widget" and the third was "You did the Z modification incorrectly, you probably want to do it at an angle to avoid problems."  I've stopped posting there.

       

      Is that any surprise?  Bringing this back to LSC, guess what kind of complaints I get from new users about how LSC feels to new people?  Guess what kind of complaints I spend my time responding to our existing members?

       

    • August 31, 2017 12:01 PM EDT
    • Vincent D'Agostino said:
      Just figuring out how I am going to post pictures to this site in the future. It works, just not happy about the sizing. Not a fan of just posting the thumbnail (even though it looks good once enlarged) Just feel those pics don't get looked at as much as ones that are posted larger.

       

       

      Just copy your facebook photos and paste here.  The size etc.... fits perfect and non FB people can still see the photos.  

      Image may contain: plant, tree, outdoor and nature

       

    • August 31, 2017 11:38 AM EDT
    • tested video

    • August 20, 2017 7:11 PM EDT
    • Thanks! I think I got it for now ...

    • August 20, 2017 8:41 AM EDT
    • Gregory

      Under "My Profile" go to "Edit My Profile" and scroll down. There is a block that says "Forum Signature".  Don't use it. It doesn't work.

       

      Instead go to the top of the home page and click on "Settings". Under the LSC banner you will see the words: "My Settings". Look across that line and at the end you will see "Forum Signature". Select it. You will get a text block that looks like the Forum reply box. It works just like any forum reply box. Type in whatever you want for a signature including a picture. Hit "Save Changes" at the bottom and you are in business.

       

      The signature script will be applied to all of your posts including previous ones. This applies only to the forums as it does not come up in chat.

    • August 20, 2017 3:39 AM EDT
    • and apparently not a very good one ...

       

    • August 20, 2017 3:37 AM EDT
    • this is simply a test