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    • September 30, 2019 12:58 AM EDT
    • I do know this much.

      Like Greg, reporting issues that are starting to glow but not yet flames gets....nothing Or, if you're lucky, FOUR DAYS later after it becomes a conflagration, you get a "play nice" response. I deleted the direct e-mail years ago. Along with the phone numbers.

       

      If I was to visit someones front room, and have that front room invaded by immature childishness and kids trying to pick a fight, I'd get up and leave.

      So, until someone calls me or e-mails me to see something important or interesting here......signing off.

      TOC

    • September 27, 2019 6:21 PM EDT
    • You are welcome todd, at least one positive thing has come about.... what are you working on?

    • September 27, 2019 5:53 PM EDT
    • Greg- thanks for turning your site back on, really helped me with a Kadee

      project.

       

      ken - well said.

    • September 27, 2019 2:06 PM EDT
    • and then they wonder why a thread gets locked...............sheesh.

    • September 27, 2019 12:40 PM EDT
    • Edit....Not Worth It

    • September 27, 2019 12:33 PM EDT
    • And that accomplishes what?

       

      Sweep the issue under the rug and wait until the next series of personal attacks?

       

      Continue to allow people to treat others this way?

       

      It needs Bob's attention, if nothing else for him to say "hey, you guys keep doing this and you will be removed"..... EVENTUALLY the bad actors will go then... The people just posting to take a pot shot, or find fault or bump their post count.

       

       

    • September 27, 2019 12:05 PM EDT
    •    Ten posts later, second request:

       

         " Gentlemen,

             Everything that can be said, I believe, and more, has been said.

             May I respectfully suggest that we end this conversation now, on our own, without Bob's intervention, and let the thread drift downward and eventually off the first page?

            Thanks. "

       

       

    • September 27, 2019 3:22 AM EDT
    • Fred, who is someone? i started the thread with 10 pages of info to share, and all I got was crap.

      notice the post above

      Those pages are now private and restricted to people who want to read it.

      All rooster and john are doing is to further convince me that it's not worth the abuse to share here.

    • September 26, 2019 7:34 PM EDT
    • Fred Mills. said:

      OK; hopefully all that stupidity is over with. Now can we get back to the subject at hand; "EVERYTHING WE COULD EVER WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ARISTOCRAFT HEAVY WEIGHT PASSENGER CARS...

        I for one, would like to learn all I can about them, to add to what I already may have learned in the past.

            Please, PLEASE, stay on topic, and share all the secrets, you might have with the few of us who are truly interested, here on Large Scale Central.

             Possibly someone could open a new thread, and start over, with the hope that "Barnyard politics" can be kept out of it,  PLEASE.

       

       

      No need Fred as all the answers are found here

      https://elmassian.com/

    • September 26, 2019 7:21 PM EDT
    • Fred Mills. said:

      OK; hopefully all that stupidity is over with. Now can we get back to the subject at hand; "EVERYTHING WE COULD EVER WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ARISTOCRAFT HEAVY WEIGHT PASSENGER CARS...

        I for one, would like to learn all I can about them, to add to what I already may have learned in the past.

            Please, PLEASE, stay on topic, and share all the secrets, you might have with the few of us who are truly interested, here on Large Scale Central.

             Possibly someone could open a new thread, and start over, with the hope that "Barnyard politics" can be kept out of it,  PLEASE.

      Crimeny.

    • September 26, 2019 6:34 PM EDT
    • OK; hopefully all that stupidity is over with. Now can we get back to the subject at hand; "EVERYTHING WE COULD EVER WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ARISTOCRAFT HEAVY WEIGHT PASSENGER CARS...

        I for one, would like to learn all I can about them, to add to what I already may have learned in the past.

            Please, PLEASE, stay on topic, and share all the secrets, you might have with the few of us who are truly interested, here on Large Scale Central.

             Possibly someone could open a new thread, and start over, with the hope that "Barnyard politics" can be kept out of it,  PLEASE.

    • September 26, 2019 9:02 AM EDT
    • Edit....Not Worth It

    • September 26, 2019 7:34 AM EDT
    • I hope so too, Pete. Unfortunately, you always have one or two that like to play the "victim" and point fingers at everybody else. Bob knows who they are. 

    • September 26, 2019 7:24 AM EDT
    • Well said Ken! Hope they read this from a well respected person here and act accordingly

    • September 26, 2019 4:31 AM EDT
    • Bob has a 9-5 job. Bob started this site as a favor for us. He doesn't make a dime running this site. He also doesn't need to be baby sitting a bunch of grown ups. Whining and crying to Bob every time someone "hurts" your feelings isn't going to help your cause. He doesn't need the aggravation. He's kicked people off the site before and he won't hesitate to do it again if he has too. He keeps his eye on what goes on and knows who the perpetrators are, so here's a little advice. Grow up, act your age and handle your problems like adults. I mean, do you really have to be told that!!

      I for one, happen to like this site. I've learned a lot and I think I've made a few friends. I'd really hate to see this site disappear because of a few trouble makers. He runs this site for fun. If it ceases to be fun, well, he's made it known what will happen numerous times. And if you don't like the way he runs this site, feel free to start your own.  "Locking a thread" is his way of issuing a warning. His patience will only go so far. 

       

    • September 29, 2019 2:06 PM EDT
    • Looking good, son...   Is this my Christmas present??     

    • September 29, 2019 12:48 PM EDT
    • Nice work David, what is the source of the corrugated material you are using on the roof??

    • September 27, 2019 8:28 PM EDT
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    • September 26, 2019 3:30 PM EDT
    • Boomer K. MOGWAI said:

      Joe

      You did not tell us what scale you are looking for so I will offer two different ones.

      The "Lil Big Hauler" series from Bachmann included a coach, baggage, boxcar, tanker, flat and gondola. Most of the series is still for sale direct from their website. It also appears regularly on E-bay.

       

       

       

      Accucraft offered a shorty series in 1/20.3 that included an 18' boxcar, caboose, flatcar and mine hopper. The boxcar and caboose were all brass and very rare (upwards of $200 each). The flat and hopper are still for sale from Accucraft and come up quite often on E-bay in the $50 each range .

       

       

       

       

       

      As always Joe we love pictures of whatever you are working on.

       

      I neglected to mention that I am modeling in 1:29. As long as the cars aren't too big, they should work. So anything from about 1:29 to 1:22 should be in the correct size range for a standard gauge car in 1:29. 

       

      I already have, and plan to use the Accucraft 4 wheel flat car. Even being in 20.3, it's small enough for a small 1:29 car.

       

      Boomer, I'm starting to build a "tiny" 2x8 switching layout. I'll create a thread for the layout once I decide on the theme. And there will be photos without a doubt!

       

       

    • September 26, 2019 1:52 PM EDT
    • Ric Golding said:

      Does somebody have dimensions on the Accucraft box car Boomer is showing above?  I would really like having the dimensions of that car.

      I think they were all made on the same flatcar frame.  Dave Frediani (advertises in SitG) makes 7/8ths cars from them.