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    • June 12, 2020 10:02 AM EDT
    • why don't you leave the track without rise - and holow out the receiving area beside it?

      the belt could bring the cane not only in, but up as well...

    • June 11, 2020 3:02 AM EDT
    • Update:

       

      Off to the Big Box for HardieBacker tomorrow.  I'll also look for chloroplast, as I have found that forms a good sub-roof material.  Depending on cost, I may still use it for the core rather than my pink foam.  Either way, I'll bolt those 2x4 bits into the HardieBacker to serve as reinforcements for the corners.  I am still dithering between repurposed beverage cans and commercial sheet for the corrugated sides.  The price beverage in sufficient quantity probably makes the cost a wash.

       

      I did spend an hour a week ago having a good hard "think," trying to imagine the mill in operation as well as the construction process.  Givens the size of the structure, it occurred to me it is more like a landscape item, and I am leaning towards building the main building and unloader shed "on site,"  then fitting the outbuildings as I go.  This way, I can stage the project a bit and make adjustments as I go.  One engineering issue leaves me perplexed.  The unloading track should rise, so the cane could be raked out onto the waiting unloading belt and carried into the mill.  That feature is beyond what I need, but that rise would add to the illusion that there is something going on in that shed.  Whether I can physically pull that off in the constrained space will need some testing, and I don't see how I can do that testing without the building core in place.

       

      The mock-up is falling apart in my shed.  It is time to move forward!

       

      Eric

       

      Aloha,

      Eric

    • June 12, 2020 9:01 AM EDT
    • Cliff your thoughts here are intense and I see the strength you are going for in the clips. But I see a large number of contact points that given Mother Natures whimsy may lead to frustration when putting the fronts onto the Z bar. As tight as that lap joint is any difference in expansion of the different materials due to different storage areas and having to set two rows of clips on a six foot run may become a chore or worse cause damage to a fantastic build.

      Maybe the use of two different lengths of the clip for the top row (instead of 11) because of the shape of the roof line, and one length of the clip for the lower rail will aid in the mating of the structure to the frame?

      And set one row to contact it's Z bar mate an 1/8" sooner than the other row connects.

      Just my thought YMMV

    • June 11, 2020 11:31 PM EDT
    • Popcorn. Where did I put that darned popcorn?

    • June 11, 2020 9:10 PM EDT
    • Hi folks,

       

      This is a sort of continuation of what I started in another thread about making "flats" (fronts) of buildings for my hoped-for modeling of Virginia City, NV. That thread can be found here, and thanks to everyone who contributed their comments and encouragements there. 

       

      With that first row of buildings done, it's time to make their foundation. And... well, it's a whole nuther critter than the buildings, so I decided to split away with this new thread. 

       

      Back in 2014, I made the north and south mountains, with this shot being of the north one in progress, and the city area is just beyond. I made that build thread on the MLS site, but I couldn't find it, so can't post it. If anyone runs across that, feel free to park a link here, because it might give a sense of the techniques to be used here. Having said that, I'm generally using same method as Dennis Rayon, who helped me out a lot back then.

       

       

      Those mountains went fine, but weren't exactly easy -- with 150 bags of mortar involved. The center area of the layout was always supposed to have a short mountain in it as well, and quite honestly, I've been enjoying the forgetting of it. But now, these building flats have forced me to deal with it.

       

      This center mountain is intended to provide the important E Street tunnel in Virginia City, and also a background slope for rows of building fronts representing the city itself. Here's an old plan view; it's rough.

       

       

      Well, designing in 2D is fine, but the 3rd dimension is a bi... is a bit tougher. And reality is even worse! But I'll show you my plans for the city building foundations, and we'll see how it goes. From the "flats" thread, here's a shot of were I'm at with the building foundations.

       

       

      Here's a 'puter model of the same, in a typical sense.

       

       

       

      The next step will be to add glue those boards in place, and place short EMT (conduit) tubes, clamped to the back edges of the boards. These tubes will be the sockets for all future rows of flat racks, and though those buildings will take years, I have to get all those sockets in now when the mortar goes on.

       

      After running conduit (plastic corrugated tube) to each row, and forming / securing the mesh, the mortar gets laid on -- in nowhere near the neatness portrayed in the following.

       

       

      The extra holes represent drain holes I'll need to punch thru.

       

      When I get around to completing a row of flats (and it may be a long time), I'll put up removable racks of 3/4" EMT and aluminum Z-bar. Yes, I know about the galvanic corrosion issue, and I'll solve that as best I can with fasteners / rubber washers between the two. Or not, we'll see. 

       

       

      The idea here is NOT to have a forest of tubes and bars, in advance of the buildings going in, but only add the racks when needed.

       

      The individual flats clip onto these z-bars.

       

       

      Well, at least that's the plan. I'll admit, there's a lot to go wrong, and a lot of it will. But, WTH, I'm going for it, and the result will be what it will be.

       

      This project will take a couple months at least, maybe a couple more, because the mountain will extend over into the center area. So in the hopes of reducing mud and sunburn, after work today I put up a tarp. 

       

       

      And, since I have an extra week of vacation time available (the V&T conference in Nevada this year was cancelled ), I'll be taking the next few Fridays off to work on this. That'll give me 4 work days in between sessions for my back to recover, yee haw!  

       

      So, there's corner I've painted myself into, and I'll report later in the weekend on any progress. Thanks for viewing,

      ===:>Cliffy

       

       

    • June 11, 2020 12:33 PM EDT
    • Latest venture is building a mini single boggie heisler with the realization that the one I'm building doesn't look anything like the real one and only 1 ever built. Found the picture on Pinterest of a On3 one that is listed as being on the roster of Rio Allosius Mining & Co and it's look and stature just struck me as being cool and being as I pretty much have  everything for the build I decided to do it. Started with a LGB powered tender chassis, cut the sides down to a desired height and then with a flat 1/4" composite plate I cut out the length and width needed before proceeding with cutting a square section in the middle out so that the chassis would sit flat and secure it to the tender housing using 2/56 machine screws. I removed the bearing journals and springs for an old etech tender chassis and glued them to the side of the tender housing at the wheel location and finally added truss rods to the sides. at this point I am deciding on type of cab and have started on building the boiler using PVC fittings and a Lionel 0-6-0 sand dome, More to come

      modelsside of chassistemp cab fitted

    • June 11, 2020 11:39 AM EDT
    • Ric Golding said:

      Glad you made it home, Pete.  Now back to last Summer's project.  ;-)

      Yes - one thing in the bag of mail that my neighbor collected was a package of resin parts from Smallbrook Studios, consisting of a British-style battery box for the underneath, and a pair of duckets for the guard. As you are not a Brit, the following pic is of a ducket, a place for the guard/conductor to stick his head out without getting wet!

       

       

      OK. Over to the other thread . . .

    • June 11, 2020 9:26 AM EDT
    • Glad you made it home, Pete.  Now back to last Summer's project.  ;-)

    • June 10, 2020 6:12 PM EDT
    • OH now you tell me, you could have taken gobs more trains home inside the kayak!  

       

      Jerry

    • June 10, 2020 5:12 PM EDT
    • Ric Golding said:

      Hey Pete, Great Video!  Glad to hear you are heading north.  I guess you feel you can get there without isolation for 2 weeks in each state.  Hope you find things open when you get home.  Please keep us informed.  

      Ric, we took the Auto Train. They insisted we wear face coverings in the station and while moving about the train, and fed us in our (bed)rooms. Apart from those minor inconveniences (oh - and they didn't have coffee and ice in each coach, so I had to go to the Lounge car for it - another inconvenience,) we rattled along and arrived early. Got to our MD condo by 10am the following day; only 26 hrs door-to-door. We even loaded a kayak on the roof and it came for $0. THere were 4 hoppers, a caboose, and an EBT C-19 #7 stuffed in the car.

      MD doesn't quarantine Floridians - it's Florida that quarantines Marylanders!

       

      Now, what was I working on in MD? Ah yes, that big British passenger coach. First I have to sort out all the train bits, parts, and other goodies that accumulated in my "Take-to-MD" box.

    • June 10, 2020 12:27 PM EDT
    • Excellent looking paint jobs, nice work, Bill

    • June 10, 2020 10:33 AM EDT
    • Being a modeler myself, I would just like to tell you on how nice the engine turned out, paint work was tops in my book. Repainting all my engines and rolling stock is my favorite part of the hobby for me, I rebuilt two LGB Moguls 2-6-0 to look like 2-8-0 Consolations, my favorite D&RGW NG engines, #268 and 278.  

       

      trainman

    • June 10, 2020 10:26 AM EDT
    • Sorry, double post

       

      trainman

    • June 9, 2020 7:04 PM EDT
    • Rain has kept me indoors the last few days, so I completed two more rotary gons. I still have two more under construction.

       

      I don't know what Microsoft has done, but my Silhouette Cameo software is BO. I have reinstalled the last three versions, and none of them will open. I ended up installing the original software that came with the machine, and managed to cut the CN logos. Unfortunately it's making it very hard to modify files, so the rest of the markings are going to take some time.

       

      Shane

       

       

      I now have three cars with the large logo.

       

    • June 9, 2020 4:15 PM EDT
    • After all that time in storage in the house all three engines ran fine, I did look at the gearing and put some new grease on them, the traction tires were totally rotted, so I got new ones from an online dealer. Thanks for the comments, I will try to join in from time to time.

      trainman 

    • June 9, 2020 1:26 PM EDT
    • All are quite nice yet I'm going to play favorites and call 268 my favorite for its brightness.

    • June 9, 2020 12:49 PM EDT
    • Gorgeous work, John!  My track and trains were in storage for 20+ years.  All but two locomotives worked fine, the latter were repairable, and the track proudly serves the Triple O!  I look forward to learning from your model building experience!

       

      Aloha,

      Eric

    • June 9, 2020 12:44 PM EDT
    • Indoors on bench work is pretty convenient to wok on   If you don't have enough room for a continuous run (loop), a switching layout can be fun to build and operate.  I am a little of both indoor and outdoor, but the indoor seems to be getting more of my attention of late as it gets harder every year to get up from being down on my knees

    • June 9, 2020 10:09 AM EDT
    • Welcome to the club...    

    • June 9, 2020 9:52 AM EDT
    • Welcome aboard!

      Too bad you didn't pick the El Paso and South Western, we could have had an interchange! I claim to model the line between Tucson and Douglas.

      I elevated my RR to keep me off my knees.